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  1. #11
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    MCH 60-70 actually is a nice send off to HW and I highly recommend it if you were in any way disappointed by how that particular story was handled. Other than that none but the DRG quest really 'tie' into the storyline as it's happening.
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  2. #12
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I’m playing as summoner for the MSQ, so I’ll definitely get that storyline.

    Is the additional information from the monk quests important to the main plot, or fine to leave until later?

    And I like playing as bard, so is it “better” to do those quests alongside MSQ than afterwards? Or doesn’t it matter much?

    I’m hoping to do all the story quests eventually.
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  3. #13
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Only the DRG questline so far heavily impacts the MSQ (though Estinien). There are cameos and references in other ones but it isn't exactly 'breaking' to do them out of sync with the MSQ with the 30-50 MNK being the exception. That said, a lot of the jobs get at least references from time to time.

    As for Jobs that follow a story close to the MSQ, MNK is an obvious one. It deals with a pretty significant aspect of Ala Mhigan society and history. NIN and SAM are thematically relevant but their actual stories aren't particularly tied to the MSQ. DRK is but only in the sense that it addresses an aspect of the WoL that isn't really addressed otherwise and that being how the WoL emotionally responds to everything the have been through. Honestly I think they did a stand up job of making it personal while keeping it vague enough that any normal mentally sane person would probably have similar feeling on some scale. DRK harness feelings of pain, loss, anger, frustration and fear and pump Aether into those emotions to manifest the dark fire they use as a weapon. As such the MSQ touches on these in relation to the WoL and their experiences in the MSQ. If your character has never felt any of these emotions then DRK wouldn't be a Job that really makes sense.
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    Feli Aiko
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Only DRK (30-50, then 60-70) truly ties into the MSQ really, with the former leaning on the closing events of ARR and the latter dealing with the aftermath of HW and how they impacted you emotionally.
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    I will third/fourth the DRK quests, as you don't really see a sense of how the WoL is dealing with everything that's happening during MSQ. The DRK quests directly address those in a pretty nice way, and I'd have to say it is one of the more emotional, impactful storylines - unlike some of the other job quests which have weaker stories in different expansions, I felt the DRK job quests were incredibly solid from 30-70.
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  6. #16
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    DRK is but only in the sense that it addresses an aspect of the WoL that isn't really addressed otherwise and that being how the WoL emotionally responds to everything the have been through.
    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Only DRK (30-50, then 60-70) truly ties into the MSQ really, with the former leaning on the closing events of ARR and the latter dealing with the aftermath of HW and how they impacted you emotionally.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I will third/fourth the DRK quests, as you don't really see a sense of how the WoL is dealing with everything that's happening during MSQ.
    My understanding (from a discussion on a different forum) is that although the quests deal with "the" Warrior of Light's emotional response to events, it's based on a specific characterisation that is completely at odds with "my" Warrior of Light.

    As it's been described to me, the Dark Knight storyline portrays your character as feeling that "they are being used/just tools of the Scions and the role of WoL is just some awful burden placed upon them stopping them from following their true goals" and also "enjoys the brutality of combat" and all of those points are so far away from the good-natured, eager-to-help-people healer/summoner (who is willingly helping to save the world) that I've been playing all this time. I don't want to see her acting out that dark personality.

    (Which is not to say she wouldn't affected by what's happened, just not like that.)
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  7. #17
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    If you finish the coils of bahamut before 4.3(I think that's where it's at) Allisaie apparently has different dialogue compared to if you haven't finished it(I unfortunately haven't finished it...still).
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  8. #18
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    DRK shows your character in a different light. I especially like when they comment about doing fetch quests. Mostly DRK is a reflection of ARR events and later down the line in the 60-70 questline a reflection of HW events alonside a reflection of its own storyline which is why DRK is one of the best job storylines.

    SMN goes into detail about how you defeated previous primals, including side quest primals like Zurvan, etc.


    DRG pretty much like you said is recommended to complete before you begin HW.

    Coils of Bahamut affect Allisaie in the story. Also certain side quests cross paths with each other like the Hildi series with Hildibrand's father the first time you meet him or throughout various MSQ.

    I find it amazing that devs do tie story or lore from sidequests or Job quests into the MSQ. With DRK being my favorite as it sort of expresses all of our dissatisfaction from Minfillia and her fetch quests in one great story.
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  9. #19
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    Feli Aiko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    If you finish the coils of bahamut before 4.3(I think that's where it's at) Allisaie apparently has different dialogue compared to if you haven't finished it(I unfortunately haven't finished it...still).
    You're not missing much (as far as said dialogue). She just thanks you for joining her or something and says she'll help you like you helped her then.
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  10. #20
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    The thing about these alterations to the msq due to having a job at a certain level is...
    AFAIK, you can only see them while doing the msq for the first time, they aren't triggered in the replay feature...


    So, it would be beneficial to know if there are any interactions for specific jobs prior to going through the msq.
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