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    Ok, lets get rid of the weekly cap. Now, instead of grinding tomes, you now have to grind dungeons, because tome gear no longer exists and has a 1% chance to drop from the boss chests in dungeons. but it could be any gear, not just whatever job you are on, and repeats are possible. But hey, not you arent locked out from advancing your character!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    has a 1% chance to drop from the boss chests in dungeons
    When your argument goes to absurd extremes like this, it's a pretty good sign that you're being dismissive and arguing in bad faith.

    If they removed not only the cap but Tomestones all together, and if gear instead dropped from the dungeons instead, it would be akin to the Alliance Raids. And you know what? People already run the EX dungeons and the Alliance Raids for glamour (and/or catch-up gear and/or GC Seals), and would continue to even if the dungeons gave half as many drops as they currently do.

    Y'know what the funniest part about that change would be to me? We'd actually be inside the dungeons for the dungeons themselves, instead of them just being "colorful interchangeable hallway #37" that we walk through because they're completely irrelevant and we just want Tomestones (or whatever glamour is arbitrarily assigned to them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    When your argument goes to absurd extremes like this, it's a pretty good sign that you're being dismissive and arguing in bad faith.

    If they removed not only the cap but Tomestones all together, and if gear instead dropped from the dungeons instead, it would be akin to the Alliance Raids. And you know what? People already run the EX dungeons and the Alliance Raids for glamour (and/or catch-up gear and/or GC Seals), and would continue to even if the dungeons gave half as many drops as they currently do.

    Y'know what the funniest part about that change would be to me? We'd actually be inside the dungeons for the dungeons themselves, instead of them just being "colorful interchangeable hallway #37" that we walk through because they're completely irrelevant and we just want Tomestones (or whatever glamour is arbitrarily assigned to them).
    But that's what it would go to. Maybe not 1%, but 5%. It certainly wouldn't be anywhere close to guaranteed drops per run. And how does that change what dungeons are? Its still the same thing, but now because it drops relevant gear its suddenly less terrible? People also complain all the time they don't have personal loot in 24 mans and it takes them 50+ runs to see the drop they want and then they lose it to the other guy.

    Anyone that's played the older MMO's knows this. Drop rates were TERRIBLE. That's how they got you to stay subbed. Now we have guaranteed ability to get the gear we want, and it also makes it easy to catch up if you need a break. We can go back to the older style system, but expect to see a massive drop in players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ok, lets get rid of the weekly cap. Now, instead of grinding tomes, you now have to grind dungeons, because tome gear no longer exists and has a 1% chance to drop from the boss chests in dungeons. but it could be any gear, not just whatever job you are on, and repeats are possible. But hey, not you arent locked out from advancing your character!
    Or better.
    Keep the tomes, remove the cap, but change the tome reward as a possible reward from a boss chest.
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-12-2018 at 03:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Ok, lets get rid of the weekly cap. Now, instead of grinding tomes, you now have to grind dungeons, because tome gear no longer exists and has a 1% chance to drop from the boss chests in dungeons. but it could be any gear, not just whatever job you are on, and repeats are possible. But hey, not you arent locked out from advancing your character!
    Removing cap doesn't mean gear is no longer bought with tomestones.
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