An Alternative? to parsers..

[thegreatonemal]

I'd argue that clearing the dungeon is a pretty damn low standard to set. At this point I just accept that I'm most likely going to out dps almost any df dps I get in a dungeon queue, and more often than not I'm right. Why is that ok?

unbiased reason: Your still clearing the dungeon because you took 5 to 10 minutes longer doing it or that your a tank that knows your role up against either lazy dps that aren't doing everything they can is irrelevant.

Biased reason: Its not but hey not everyone is gonna play up to your standards so you have two choices either stop using the DF and go with people who do meet your standards or the second choice stop whining on an online forum about people who don't care to or even know that they aren't playing at their classes full capabilities. there is no third option.

[Hruodig]

unbiased reason: Your still clearing the dungeon because you took 5 to 10 minutes longer doing it or that your a tank that knows your role up against either lazy dps that aren't doing everything they can is irrelevant.

Biased reason: Its not but hey not everyone is gonna play up to your standards so you have two choices either stop using the DF and go with people who do meet your standards or the second choice stop whining on an online forum about people who don't care to or even know that they aren't playing at their classes full capabilities. there is no third option.

I generally only go with pre mades if I can, and so do the majority of good tanks that I know. Fun fact: There's actually a good bit of tanks out there, but most of us only do content with pre mades because we know that df is a trap. Z-dps healers, dps who don't aoe, dps who can't out dps us. Why bother? If quality of df was higher then I wouldn't be as apprehensive to go with randoms, but god forbid we try to implement things to help the playerbase improve.

[thegreatonemal]

I generally only go with pre mades if I can, and so do the majority of good tanks that I know. Fun fact: There's actually a good bit of tanks out there, but most of us only do content with pre mades because we know that df is a trap. Z-dps healers, dps who don't aoe, dps who can't out dps us. Why bother? If quality of df was higher then I wouldn't be as apprehensive to go with randoms, but god forbid we try to implement things to help the playerbase improve.

Just that the thing your talking about in no way helps anyone doing dungeon content and only helps other content if your looking to speed run. Yet none of you are talking about rotation guides in game explaining how DoTs work and why they are vital they are or otehr key gameplay mechanics that newer players and people new to mmos general won't know. I can't think of another game genre where you have to use goggle to find out how to play it properly. Yet I see no threads about this.

[Hruodig]

Just that the thing your talking about in no way helps anyone doing dungeon content and only helps other content if your looking to speed run. Yet none of you are talking about rotation guides in game explaining how DoTs work and why they are vital they are or otehr key gameplay mechanics that newer players and people new to mmos general won't know. I can't think of another game genre where you have to use goggle to find out how to play it properly. Yet I see no threads about this.

I would be down for all of the above. I don't think I'd necessarily want a ranking system though, a personal parser with detailed battle info available would be ok.

[thegreatonemal]

I would be down for all of the above. I don't think I'd necessarily want a ranking system though, a personal parser with detailed battle info available would be ok.

Then we should be making thread after thread about that. instead its "gimme parser" like that is going to help anything. it will only help ps4 players see their number without any context and without context people will simply use it as a epeen measuring stick.

[Hruodig]

Then we should be making thread after thread about that. instead its "gimme parser" like that is going to help anything. it will only help ps4 players see their number without any context and without context people will simply use it as a epeen measuring stick.

Parsers would help people understand when they're doing better vs doing worse. See the number go up? Better. Lower? Worse. Lots of people simply don't know what kind of damage they're doing, and since it's so easy to get carried through content, they never think they have to improve. Parsers would help those people.