I'm being taunted by a bot farmer...

[KageTokage]

...I didn't spam emotes.

I saw his alt standing by a summoning bell in Limsa on one occasion, and did a single /huh at it. One of his bots came by the timed node in Middle La Noscea while I waiting for it to spawn the S rank and did the same thing then (Because a bunch of other people were waiting there for the same reason). It was the day after that that I noticed his little stunt.

I've never actually bothered interacting with his main (I had meant to say "his bots", but was in a hurry) in any way because he just stands around by the summoning bell in front of his house in the Lavender Beds all day long as of late and almost never shows his face in the main cities. I ran through there on one occasion out of curiosity just to see his house (Which was reasonably well-decorated) and what he was doing, then left. I also stopped purposely following his bots around months ago, and was mostly doing that back pre-SB when I was trying to record their movement patterns for reporting purposes (Which I've given up on at this point).

[Alisi]

That's being in same place, not same thing as stalking.

I never said it was. I'm trying to translate what the OP said. It *feels* like stalking.

Not sure how i can be wrong when i didnt make any statements regarding stalking. The op himself said he was stalking, thats not something i can be wrong about, its a fact, based on what was said, that the bot was being stalked. ...but if you dig deeper...there is literally no way this was unintentional stalking....he followed the bot, lets say at first because of the node situation...sure, coincedinces...but then he proceeded to find the bots main on the market board..find the bots main IN THE GAME PHYSICALLY and spam emotes at the bots main every chance he saw the bots main..thats not unintentional stalking..its going out of your way to stalk

It seems like stalking but it isn't. You don't understand because you do not gather end game. These things are on a rote cycle. That means you can literally follow someone throughout the game, from one thing to another, from one map to another, while not stalking someone. You both are simply gathering the same item. It can feel like your stalking someone, or someone is stalking you. These bots are gathering bots and the bots work for the main -- which mean the main would know likely be at these spots. And you can throw emotes at people because you're literally standing right next to them. They are right there and there's not much else to do when you're waiting for them to pop up. This isn't an issue where you have a whole map or even individual nodes. The nodes spawn in the same place for everyone, at the same time for everyone. I will warp to the map and I know 90% of the time who will warp in after me, because they are gatherers, I know they're doing the gathering thing because I just saw them, and I know what's about to come up. It feels like stalking you're stalking these people when you're not.

As for the MB, if you're gathering and selling, you will see that person's listing when you list your own. There is an option to bring up the current prices of any item you're selling on the MB (and an option to see who bought stuff.) I'm sorry, but if someone has retain of your name, it'll stand out more. And you can tell who owns the retainers either by the stuff they sell. Equipment you make has your name on it. I know the retainer names of all my competition -- not because I go out of my way but because their name is on the stuff they sell.

[LeeraSorlan]

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how you can assume what i do ingame is beyond me..but its stalking, its not about what you feel like it is, its not about coincedince, its stalking, it doesnt matter what your personal opinion is regarding a fact

He was stalking.

I also stopped purposely following his bots around months ago

[LeeraSorlan]

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im not trying to defend the bot, and im not trying to downplay how rude it is for someone to do this to you..im just trying to let you know why a GM will likely not see this as something against the other person.

From the way you worded the post.. a summary sounds like "i stalked some bots...i found the main of the bots and purposfully (essentially) harrassed him with emotes, he then changed his retainers to my name"


Wording is key, and i might have read the message differently if the wording didnt seem to suggest what ive said

[KageTokage]

I suppose I could've gone into more detail to make it clear that I was not "spamming" emotes at the characters in question (I know how just how touchy some players can be from the experiences of others, and avoid doing anything they could use as an excuse to report me).

In any case, I've learned from this that it's probably best to just not show any hostility or negativity to other players period. Which is really difficult when you have to see so many bots on a daily basis and you know precisely who owns all of them. It honestly frustrates me enough that I don't even want to gather while they're online at times.

[Alisi]

how you can assume what i do ingame is beyond me..but its stalking, its not about what you feel like it is, its not about coincedince, its stalking, it doesnt matter what your personal opinion is regarding a fact

He was stalking.

You don't have an end game gatherer ergo you don't end game gather. Simple.

[LeeraSorlan]

You don't have an end game gatherer ergo you don't end game gather. Simple.

TIL my 3 alts i have dont exist simply because my lodestone features my main character.

But the subject of me and what i do is off topic and unrelated to how they were stalking, regardless of whatever excuse you would like to handfeed me

[Alisi]

TIL my 3 alts i have dont exist simply because my lodestone features my main character.

I see. That's why you knew all this about end game gatherers, huh. I am just trying to explain to you why what she said about the gatherers isn't as terrible as it sounds. If you wish to take offense at someone trying to give you some 'handfed' information, that is all on your own.

[LeeraSorlan]

I see. That's why you knew all this about end game gatherers, huh. I am just trying to explain to you why what she said about the gatherers isn't as terrible as it sounds. If you wish to take offense at someone trying to give you some 'handfed' information, that is all on your own.

im not offended at anything, and what is there to know? all youve explained to me is that gatheres have timed nodes that require u to be somewhere specific..this is common knowledge that anyone who plays this game should know even a little bit about. you didnt explain anything i wasnt already familiar with.

The main point is he was stalking, thats it. its not about whatever gathering specific thing you want to talk about

Im quoting this again because it literally is not about being at the same place at the same time due to a timed gathering node.

I also stopped purposely following his bots around months ago

you cannot purposfully stalk someone by accident.

[Alisi]

you cannot purposfully stalk someone by accident.

But they're GATHERING bots. How hard is this for you to understand? I get you're invested in this person being evil but he's not. Just because he decided to gather a couple extra things doesn't mean he's stalking in the traditional sense. It just means he knows what sells on his server and so he chooses to gather a little bit extra. Ooooh! He's a stalker! I don't know if you know this, but bots do the same things over and over and over again. That's why they're BOTS. And these are GATHERING BOTS. Meaning, anyone with half a brain can pinpoint where they'd be. You can stalk bots without having to think about it. Why? Because we all (eg, every single end game gatherer) gathers the same thing at the same time. It's not rocket science. You want to spin his actions into this nefarious tilt and I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you simply didn't understand how ridiculous you were sounding. I guess I was wrong. Forgive me for assuming.