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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    However if someone says "no" you'll have to respect that and leave them alone. Now..you can make it a requirement for your static/PF that logs are posted and then everyone who doesn't want to participate in that level of play can just not join.

    That all sounds pretty reasonable to me.
    If the group has failed to push beyond enrage and someone refuses to post their numbers, it's likely they are fully aware where the issue originates. Furthermore, the second someone declines, people are liable to kick them, which can never be against the ToS since they should always retain the right to decide how their party will function. Just like you cannot force people to post their numbers. You cannot force people to keep someone in their party regardless of the reason they're being kicked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    but DOES the data need to be that granular for you to see progress? I know it's a meme at this point to mention the SSS, but that allows all DPS to know how they're doing gear+rotation wise. And I understand our numbers are lower in the actual trial due to downtime but I dont feel blind and clueless about it. I get it's useful, dont get me wrong, but I don't think we're nearly as uninformed as people think.
    SSS is basically useless. Not only does it omit other job utility, the lack of mechanics makes it a very inaccurate representation of your damage. Another factor in the parse debate is accountability. Sorry to say, but people shouldn't have to carry someone doing the bare minimum just because it's enough to kill a dummy.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    No its just useless a parser provides no context it just spits out a number and you have no idea why that number is high or low unless you can remember every action you did and when you did it over the course of a 10-12 minute fight. FFlogs is what gives that context so a parser on its own does nothing so we would need the parser and a SE sanctioned version of FFlogs which isn't going to happen.
    All they needs do is endorse ACT for a single raid tier and measure the response. If wide-spread toxicity happens, they can retract said endorsement and point to precisely why. If it actually led to improvements though...

    The actual issue is they don't want accountability to that extent because bad players are still profitable. They want people carried as that will keep them subscribed.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 01-09-2018 at 02:11 AM.