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    RichardButte's Avatar
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    Richard Butte
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    In competition with myself: a request for PERSONAL parsers

    "You have competition every day because you set such high standards for yourself that you have to go out every day and live up to that." - Michael Jordan

    DPS checks are a thing in this game. That much is not up for debate.

    This means that DPS will find themselves in situations where they will be called upon do push their gear, class, etc. to its limits in order to maximize their damage output.

    Yet, we have no convenient method of determining, at that moment, just how good of a job we're doing on that front.

    For tanks and healers, the question is easy to answer: if a tank is holding aggro and mitigating well enough that they live, they're doing fine (plus they can ask the healers if how hard they are to heal). If no one is dying, the healer is killing it.

    But for a DPS, how we're doing from moment to moment is hazy at best, especially when we have no idea which other DPS are maximizing their damage and which aren't.

    At the very least, let us have a personal parser that shows us and ONLY us our current DPS. It feels good to improve, and while tanks and healers can see themselves healing and holding aggro better, DPS don't have that same luxury with most boss situations (as we're never the only DPS there and have no idea how much we're personally contributing).

    If you're afraid someone will ask you what your DPS is, you'd have the same option players do now: lie about it.

    If the player insists you're not doing as much as you say, they're clearly using a 3rd party parser and could be reported for doing so.

    But seriously, I just want to know how much damage I'm doing at THAT very moment, and a specialized instance where I can see how long it takes for me to kill something is no substitute because it doesn't factor into account the numerous mechanics to be found in a particular raid encounter.

    The instance can tell you what you're capable of in a controlled environment you understand. It will tell you NOTHING of how much damage you're actually doing while learning the mechanics of a challenging new fight.

    It could only help us improve as DPS players and it would be vastly more convenient than having to visit a specialized instance that exists entirely due to a lack of personal parsers.

    PS. I feel like I need to point out (again) the fact that two of the three roles in this game, while having actual tools to gauge their effectiveness, can and DO frequently have those tools used against them.

    Ergo, I don't understand why players so greatly fear toxicity when it's aimed at DPS players to the extent that they're concerned about DPS players even knowing their OWN numbers, yet they're apparently unconcerned with the fact that tanks and healers can (and often are) chewed out and kicked from groups for even one single screw up.

    The mentality behind it being okay for tanks and healers to be held accountable for poor play but DPS must be shielded from even SELF scrutiny needs to DIAF.

    Please just let me see my OWN DPS...
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    Last edited by RichardButte; 01-08-2018 at 06:21 AM.

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    Honestly, I think I would enjoy having a personal parser. I don't think it would be damaging in any way, and would only be there to enable people to know where they are, and to look into what they could do to improve if they so wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    Honestly, I think I would enjoy having a personal parser. I don't think it would be damaging in any way, and would only be there to enable people to know where they are, and to look into what they could do to improve if they so wish.
    Exactly.

    I just want to focus on improving without needing to resort to using 3rd party applications to actually know how much DPS I'm doing (if I even trust them to be accurate, I mean...)
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    I have no problems with personal parsers, as long as it becomes a actionable offense to demand someone elses numbers.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    I support personal parsers, but did we really need another thread in pile?
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    Eyliria Dawnbreaker
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    You want a personal... parser?
    Go hit the dps check statues and see how much time left you have on them.
    Do that every now and then against the same statue and see if you have more or less time left.

    Phew, that was easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eylirria View Post
    You want a personal... parser?
    Go hit the dps check statues and see how much time left you have on them.
    Do that every now and then against the same statue and see if you have more or less time left.

    Phew, that was easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Joe Ultima
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    You could always just ask SE to change the SSS dummies so they move around like the actual boss does, or display hit zones for you to dodge (even though no attack will actually happen). Can't guarantee they'd make such a change though.
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    Lala Yuki
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    Wow literally just earlier today I was wanting to practice BLM in O1-3 but my friends(who parse) that I usually play with were either sleeping or doing something else so I thought I might queue alone....only to realize I have no way of checking my damage, which means no way of knowing if messing with my CDs(holding ley lines at certain high movement parts, triplecast placement, etc) is actually a dps gain or if I'm only hurting myself, so what would even be the point? ...Anyway I logged out and did something else.
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    Last edited by RLofOBFL; 01-07-2018 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    You could always just ask SE to change the SSS dummies so they move around like the actual boss does, or display hit zones for you to dodge (even though no attack will actually happen). Can't guarantee they'd make such a change though.
    That does ziltch for theory crafting purposes.
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