People should also keep in mind that all evasion based skills are completely useless to anyone but a tank while in a party. The Puglist should not have hate long enough to use these skills. As it stands right now, in 1.19, Haymaker and Jarring Strike are only used in Solo combat unless at Gladiator or Marauder has them cross classes. After 1.20 these skills are set to be CLass specific. This essentially makes them unusable.