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  1. #11
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Per SE's own policies, yes, they do. This is why they won't accept youtube or twitch clips as evidence for speed hacking. Unless that first advert was linked in-game, the GMs won't do anything.
    What hes saying is they don't have to log into a discord to make a rule prohibiting people from making "Please contact me on discord for pricing" party finder listings.

    Make it so people can't use the game to advertise at all.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 01-07-2018 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    It's not just services. The same groups also sell gil.


    No. They would only have to do that if they wanted absolute proof of RMT in order to issue bans to specific parties. They don't need to do that to prohibit the listings from being made.
    They need that proof, otherwise they can't punish.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    They need that proof, otherwise they can't punish.
    They can prohibit people from using the game to advertise something where you would have to contact them outside the game for details.
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  4. #14
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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    You know the oddest thing about PF? They allow single player only slot and max ilevel beyond the game's max ilevel. If this is restricted, I'm sure GM can join and ban all form of selling/buying outside MB as soon report is made. Selling runs using gils with Cross Server Party doesn't make any sense. You would have to transfer the gils too between servers, that counts as real money.

    Of course doesn't stop anyone renaming their retainers "BuyCheapDiscord4324", but it's a start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    https://imgur.com/a/lflq2

    https://imgur.com/a/1tDoD


    Are there any plans to add a blacklist feature that works, or are there any plans to prohibit such listings?
    I'm wondering what your browser history looks like.
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I noticed the paypal thing in the first link.
    Let the banhammers fly.
    That won't solve anything. The sellers will just use other accounts and not be as obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    What hes saying is they don't have to log into a discord to make a rule prohibiting people from making "Please contact me on discord for pricing" party finder listings.

    Make it so people can't use the game to advertise at all.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They can prohibit people from using the game to advertise something where you would have to contact them outside the game for details.
    This too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anienai View Post
    I'm wondering what your browser history looks like.
    The image is the first or second result on Google when you search the discord info. To say it took 5 seconds to find would be an overstatement if anything. Literally the only way for it to be more obvious was if they posted the site or said 'we accept Paypal' in the pf.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They can prohibit people from using the game to advertise something where you would have to contact them outside the game for details.
    That's not against rules.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    That's not against rules.
    But they could MAKE it against the rules. All it does is allow people to advertise RMT in game without explicitly saying so.

    Why else wouldn't they ask for a tell in game about pricing if its not real money?

    They can just make advertising for an in game service while asking to be contacted outside the game for info/pricing against the rules, since that's totally not fishy at all in terms of RMT.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 01-07-2018 at 02:38 PM.

  9. #19
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    If exploiting the game for "commercial use" is against the ToS, they'd have a legal grounds to take action against the people/companies who make the botting programs in the first place, because a lot of them are paid services.

    Pity it's unlikely they'd ever be willing to go through the trouble.
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    Cerys Fairbairn
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    http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

    2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items. You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party or for the purpose of selling any virtual assets to a third party for real-world money, specifically including "gold-farming" and power-leveling services.
    The ad says payment is through paypal using USD. Clear as day that this isn't allowed. Did you make a report?
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