Criticism on Stormblood's Monk

[Shurrikhan]

Refer to the above quote. Once again, nowhere did I say I was the authority on WAR and my opinion is the only right one. In the last two or so months I have met many players though, at least in my datacenter, that like to make very generalized statements based off of limited experience, and I would like that to stop, as many new players (with the leaf next to their name and everything) that they spout nonsense to believe it right off the bat and never look for themselves, which I dislike greatly due to the fact it promotes both ignorance in the playerbase and is factually incorrect.

The only problem there is you picked the one argument that doesn't have a direct factual counter. In ALL cases, enmity combos are a DPS loss, at least until such time as you'd lose rDPS because of your damage-dealers getting picked off due to your low enmity. And that's pretty well been taken care of via Shirk so long as you have a NIN and no SAM (or Monk, if they're good enough).

THAT blanketing statement is technically correct in all cases, and trying uninformedly to throw smoke onto any one of those cases to change the result does truth no favors.

[Namingwayfinder]

The only problem there is you picked the one argument that doesn't have a direct factual counter. In ALL cases, enmity combos are a DPS loss, at least until such time as you'd lose rDPS because of your damage-dealers getting picked off due to your low enmity. And that's pretty well been taken care of via Shirk so long as you have a NIN and no SAM (or Monk, if they're good enough).

THAT blanketing statement is technically correct in all cases, and trying uninformedly to throw smoke onto any one of those cases to change the result does truth no favors.

Well, I'll admit to not being very clear on my verbage, peruse post above for hindsight being 20/20 and me realizing I use outdated terminology out of habit. To put it simply, you are correct, if you'll notice I actually agreed with the point that yes, enmity combos are definitely a loss to overall dps in the first response to LeeraSorlan

And while we're on the subject of picking the least factually countered argument, trying to pick apart an anecdote is like trying to kill yourself by holding your breath, it kind of doesn't work and suffocates you before you come to the resolution you want. Yes, I used an anecdote that demonstrated that I very much dislike broad generalizations because they can be factually incorrect. Yet I never tried to argue any point other than the fact that generalized statements, like the one the person I was originally responding to, can have small nuances that may actually be incorrect. Look at the whole fiasco over the Blackest Night for DRK in 4.05, how a large part of the community held the idea that it was a DPS gain when, once the math was done and equivalated, it actually turned out to be a DPS loss.

TL;DR: You're doing exactly what the LeeraSorlan did, in essence, making a mountain out of a molehill for reasons that you derived both from my poor clarification and and multiple assumptions and inferences on your part that weren't there in any statement I made. Now can we please stop arguing about WAR and talk about MNK, like the thread was originally about? I feel bad for the people that had to sit through this elitist, "holier than thou because I can't admit I may have misunderstood something" attitude.