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  1. #11
    Player
    Raim's Avatar
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    Raim Surion
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 100
    But in trash packs that 30 seconds in roughly in between pulls. If a pack of enemies isn't dead or nearly dying in a dungeon once a Summer has finished his burst and used Deathflare then the other DPS or healer isn't contributing enough. That isn't the issue with RDM. Its just that RDM AoE feels very repetitive and even the payoff for Enhanced Moulinet doesn't feel good. Thats why I had suggested that Enhanced Moulinet acts like a 'combo' similar to their single target rotation, and once you use it three times you can use an AoE Verholy/Verflare as a finisher. That would make it feel like a better payoff.
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  2. #12
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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Say what if they add an effect similar to Summoners Tri-Bind, but using RDMs Tether spell instead. Whenever Enhanced Scatter procs Tether will hit for X potency. Might be a bit odd since Tether is just a bind, but its an option.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  3. #13
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    Llugen's Avatar
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    Zera Vyre
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I dig it, especially since we've been discussing how to make Freeze useful (finally)!~
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  4. #14
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    At least you know about Enchanted Moulinet.

    SOOOO many rdm do their physical combo on 1 mob in a group that I don't even bother to ask why anymore.
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  5. #15
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    EllieShadeflare's Avatar
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    Elatus Shadeflare
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I'd still say replace Tether and give RDM Verwater and Verblizzard.

    And maybe something for an AoE equivalent of Verflare/Verholy. Not sure what I'd call it. We have Jolt, Impact and Scatter for neutral spells...
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  6. #16
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I quickly skimmed, but it looks like no one mentioned that RDMs AoE actually changes if there's exactly 3 enemies.
    So you need to watch how quickly enemies are going to die, and switch spells if there will be only 3 enemies as u pick ur next spell.

    (You use single target after scatter, to build up the meter quicker, for more WSs)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  7. #17
    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare View Post
    I'd still say replace Tether and give RDM Verwater and Verblizzard.

    And maybe something for an AoE equivalent of Verflare/Verholy. Not sure what I'd call it. We have Jolt, Impact and Scatter for neutral spells...
    While I'd like to see Verwater and Verblizzard, I personally want a Water spell, in general, to use. The fact that we still don't have one is a bit bothersome. Fluid Aura doesn't count, especially now that it's just a knock back.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  8. #18
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Technically speaking Cure and similar are water spells
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  9. #19
    Player
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remedi View Post
    Technically speaking Cure and similar are water spells
    That might be, lorewise, but we all want a damaging spell.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  10. #20
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    Cailee Caitlen
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I play BRD and RDM and I feel like RDM's AOE rotation is much more enjoyable than BRDs.
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