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    HiromiVenia's Avatar
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    Hiromi Venia
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I don't know how you're finishing leveling/70 dungeons in 13 to 16 minutes with one pack at a time.

    I had an FC tank and two very competent FC DPS run Kugane Castle with me on WHM and we made it out in 12 mins with every pull being wall to wall. That was something of a best case scenario (perhaps apart from me) because everyone else in the party was Savage-geared and very good at their jobs. I was on WHM and still did considerable DPS.

    To me your post loses all credibility with those times you've listed, they simply can't be true based on my experience.
    Hi, i have finished bardams in 15min pulling one group of mobs at once.

    Yeah, both your dps need to do their job well, and your healer (in this case it was me) needs to add their dps rotations too, if the tank is well geared sure ewill add some extra dps so the run will go very fast.

    I have done 70 dungeons as tank, with a healer friend and 2 well dps in 13minutes (you know, the gear there is better), and not a single massive pull was done.

    The healer in my party is less stressed out and having more fun, because he can play a little bit of dps role using his skills besides heal heal heal and just heal alone.

    The problem is when your healer never do dps, then it's slower for sure and the only way to speed it up is pulling massively (and in this case the healer will not even have time to breathe, so no dps will be added). Anyway, if my random healer never do dps, i encourage them to do, but i never pull massively unless the pull is very small (sometimes there is only 2 mobs... then, i add the next).
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiromiVenia View Post
    The healer in my party is less stressed out and having more fun
    That part there is 100% based on each individual. Not everyone finds the small pulls to be fun, just like not everyone enjoys the massive pulls. I personally enjoy the 2-3 mobs worth of pulls(dependant on the DPS and tank of course) when I heal, because then I have more to do rather than just DPS, or just heal. Challenging ones self with larger pulls can help people get better at their classes, but at the same time isn't a requirement, and depends on each individuals desire for the run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    That part there is 100% based on each individual. Not everyone finds the small pulls to be fun, just like not everyone enjoys the massive pulls. I personally enjoy the 2-3 mobs worth of pulls(dependant on the DPS and tank of course) when I heal, because then I have more to do rather than just DPS, or just heal. Challenging ones self with larger pulls can help people get better at their classes, but at the same time isn't a requirement, and depends on each individuals desire for the run.
    As a tank, i had some healers who demanded massive pulls, so i agree with you. The real problem is when the default playstyle is not the game default, but a (bad) community habit like pulling massive = better.
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