Are people really like this?

[spagthetapdancer]

My husband had a 760 in his potato, and even with lowering some settings and resolution ran fantastically better than a ps4. It's quite impressive it can run so well on such a dated card. But the game was made originally with ps3 support, so it's also not the most surprising at the same time.
40 to 60 fps at lower graphic quality and draw rates.

BUT People only say it runs crappy cuz theyve seen it on better graphics and/or on higher fps than 60. If you don't know anything but lower end pc's or the ps4 itself you will never notice this. EVER. It's like how I can't go back to playing it on the PS4 since my PC knocks the PS4 out of the park (I run a 1080ti......). There's nothing wrong with the PS4, but its just something I notice more when playing games on it that bug me enough to push me back to my PC. It's simply personal preference in that regard. It doesnt mean low end PC's or PS4's suck and are detrimental to the FFXIV experience. Not one bit. Unless you were on a PS3... then maybe a little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72MTWMPuCg I do wonder if things have improved from this but it IS 3 years old and clients get better over time usually.
Also, I've got a 6700k+1070 now but I'd totally go to bat for super-budget PC's. those things put in really grand work for the money.

[Kazgrel]

Nah, just some edgelord doing their best to rile people up, which they seem to have succeeded in doing since you inquired about their PF and posted this photo.

There were people among the early Ultimate Coil clears that played on PS4, so PS4 as a limitation to a player's capability in the game are very much false. It may not look as good or load as fast as what my PC can do, but it's a very capable system.

[silverlunarfox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72MTWMPuCg I do wonder if things have improved from this but it IS 3 years old and clients get better over time usually.
Also, I've got a 6700k+1070 now but I'd totally go to bat for super-budget PC's. those things put in really grand work for the money.

Thanks for this!

We finally upgraded him to a 1070+4770S (outdated I know but it still works). Budget pc's are fantastic really, and his technically is considering its on 5 year old hardware that costs next to nothing now.

I stopped playing on the PS4 in February of this year, and I thought it ran great. I've been playing on PS4 since October of '14. Once I got a new PC, I just, I couldn't go back...and I tried.... but I have a 144hz monitor......so uber fps so any dips aren't noticeable.
But aside from cities and big hunts (like 200+ players in an area) It ran fine enough on PS4. But still it was smoother on the 760 which was surprising. You could tell with the graphics of spells and such, healing, fire spells etc. After that I just started noticing the dips more, the unsmooth flow of certain graphics. And I hate being picky about it but seriously, once you notice it you just can't unsee it. But thats not really a performance breaker. Not everyone is into the flashy spells and such. I just like alot of fire.... >.>

[Freyt]

The appeal of consoles aren't strictly in their performance.

Stop thinking so one sidedly. While you're listing all of the reasons that consoles are bad, why don't you try listing all of the reasons that consoles are good? You might learn a thing or two.

[Kaethra]

You all think PC only groups is bad? Play on a Japanese server, even if you speak the language, you're likely not going to get much progression done outside DF.

[Maero]

Do they even realize this gen of consoles is the closest to a PC as it has ever been?
Ignorance of people never fails..
Who cares what system people play on, as long as they are enjoying themselves, lol

[MaloraYuki]

You all think PC only groups is bad? Play on a Japanese server, even if you speak the language, you're likely not going to get much progression done outside DF.

I always heard Japanese servers ran different from ours like DF was used for farms and PF was used for clears/learning? I have never been on the servers just what I heard from people.

On the topic of this thread..
I am normally a PC player but I also have a PS4. I prefer PC but recently I had to go PS4 because my processor shit the bed. Other than a few things that only I would be bothered by I don’t see what the big deal is? I mean on PS4 you can’t run a parser or anything but a group also can’t say you have to run one or harass you for DPS so not like that would really matter either. I don’t understand the hate of PS4, and like other have said I don’t know how they would know you weee a PS4 player, when I’m on pc I can’t see the gamertag that I can see when I’m on ps4.

[Estelle9lives]

The appeal of consoles aren't strictly in their performance.

Stop thinking so one sidedly. While you're listing all of the reasons that consoles are bad, why don't you try listing all of the reasons that consoles are good? You might learn a thing or two.

There are three main appeals to consoles.
1 - Exclusive titles
2 - Cheaper than PC's
3 - Plug and play

Other than that there is really... Not much. Don't get me wrong, I played XIV on PS4 from 2014 to August of this year, but after getting my PC (pretty mid-range, GTX1060 + i5) I find it impossible to go back. Playing on the PS4 litteraly gives me headaches due to all the framerate jumps and feel unresponsive now. There is a BIG difference between playing at a higher framerate (my setup can push well over 100 with unlocked framerate), but if you never experienced both versions, the PS4 will look fine to you.

I've seen examples of what say mentioned - people saying they can't join voice comm because they are on PS4, but it's not really that common. I've also been a raider since Final Coil, and was part of a speedkill team - the only PS4 player on that team - back during Creator. These things happen. PS4 players are perfectly capable of doing all content, but a ton of high end players are on PC simply because it offers better tools (between parsing and tools to reduce your ping) and performance (completely customizable graphics and possibility of achieving incredibly low response times) in multiplatfom games.

[Nedkel]

You're still missing out on some details/fps. <snip>

I didnt played ff 14 on pc so i cant compare either, however i played many games on my laptop with gtx 980m inside (what a total crap believe me) and to be honest comparing the games i played to that game on that console really stand for expectations, its really well written both on console and pc. For me the game just gives enough options to play it on console, i could trade these extra features for the convenience of use, dont care about dps or stuff like that numbers, i play a tank anyway. :P
When i was talking about PS OS i had in mind that the fps stays the same all the time, no matter the playtime i got in the game, its really solid and keeps all resources focused on the game, not like W10 (creators update) when it was trashing itself over and had to restart the game or the system itself in order to keep those FPS high, its not a problem on console.

second part below

[Nedkel]

I remember when i first installed the creators update, and it ruined v-sync entirely in every game i played, locking the fps on 59, then dropping to 30 fps for some weird reason. When i wrote about the problem on microsoft forums, the admin respond and told their team in charge of a "game mode" (really? they have a special team to make a mode pure for gaming and they never noticed that giant flaw?!) didnt notice that glitch and they are going to fix that in the future, that made me lost all the hope for the microsoft, i had to dissable few things on regedit, because there was no other way to fix it.
That just shown how incredibly incompetent is microsft when it comes to optimizing their system for gaming, and even the new xbox one x is trashing its memory so some games runs slower and slower within more time of playing, FF 15 is the best example of it.