Are people really like this?

[Paladinleeds]

Ok now its clear that you're trolling.

While I'm not so sure if there's anything like it on PS4, I know on Xbox One it's possible to get a "Pure Xbox One experience" while using Discord, albeit through a BETA. Clamour, which is a 3rd party app, for Discord. How do I know it exists? I had it on my Windows Phone. If there's one for Xbox One/Windows Phone (which btw, Microsoft have killed off) and shortly for PCs running Windows 10 S (which can't install Discord via the Windows Store), then I'm sure someone could bash something together for PS4. Then even by his standards, it'd be a pure PS4 experience! Yes, Clamour supports voice chat in servers too (not private chats though).

[spagthetapdancer]

Not sure what this non-sense is about. I play on PS4, yes I can't figure out my numbers, but I have peeps for that, that do not mind.

As far as end game though, I beat first coils and half 2nd coils back on my PS3 (yes w/ SSD though.) Raiding has never been an issue for me on PS4 either (and has been more fun visually at least on PS4.)

Raiding is not solely based around PC, you can easily raid (even w/o FFlogs and parsers) on PS4.

Talking in Discord has never been an issue or any voice chat really. It's why I have my laptop beside me while I play. I know I'm probably the minority in that respect, but yes people do have smart phones and I know a lot of other PS4 players who do use at least their phone to chat in Discord.

So unless it's just people you have just come across who are stubborn that is a very wrong and unnecessary broad general statement about PS4 players.

thanks for at least bringing a headset/laptop to discord. because open-mic from a cell phone is just suffering to listen to.

[KaivaC]

I'm not PC elitist and play many games on PS4, but for FFXIV... PS4 players don't know their damage output (and, therefore, can't see if they need to impove) unless they ask a PC player. The whole fflogs and serious high end raiding is based around PC.
For casual content like expert roulettes platform doesn't matter.
And I noticed PS4 players will less likely use discord or similar communication programs, even if they are available on mobile.
Can't open links from the chat and other inconveniences.

That is one hell of a presumptuous comment. "PS4 players can't see if they need to improve'? Seriously? High end raiding based around PC? Less likely to use discord?
That's one hell of a comment. I can't even...
I'm a PS4 user - I use discord when it is necessary for content, and if asked. I have my own discord channel and I can pop into others as needed. Perhaps I can't see my damage output..but I know when I'm not contributing much to the raid through my damage numbers on screen. It's almost as if you're suggesting that PS4 users generally don't have any business being in serious end game raiding, in which case, that's a really messed up analysis about 'PS4 players'. Are you sure you're talking about mainly PS4 players? I mean, how would you know - if you play this on PS4, have you checked every single raiders' job crystal for their gamertag, so you know that they are screwing up? Do you ask them when you are on PC if they are a PS4 user (which is just an odd thing to do when trying to figure out damage numbers).

Or did you just come here and post a baseless comment based on maybe a few bad runs in endgame, or because maybe, just maybe, some players didn't want to join a discord and you maybe assumed them to be PS4 users?

[SuperZay]

It's almost as if you're suggesting that PS4 users generally don't have any business being in serious end game raiding, in which case, that's a really messed up analysis about 'PS4 players'.

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content. Note that this has nothing to do with using KB+M or console controller, many PC players switched to PS4 controllers now.

[KaivaC]

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content. Note that this has nothing to do with using KB+M or console controller, many PC players switched to PS4 controllers now.

Where did KB+M or console controller come from? Perhaps the world first teams are majority PC players, however, that doesn't mean that PS4 players cannot fight in endgame on their level. I take issue with the comment about PS4 players, we are not disadvantaged because we cannot parse ourselves.

You know, actually, the comment that I was replying to actually answers the OP's thread question, now that I think about it.

[Sebazy]

It's a fact that all world first teams are almost exclusively PC players, better performance analisys and communications gives massive advantage in hardest end game content.

It only takes 1 person uploading a log to provide all the analysis the team typically needs. The PS4 is equally capable of uploading a video feed for video replays if required as well. The main disparity for world first progression is trigger based callouts but many teams will usually have someone calling key mechanics over voice comms anyhow, not really a problem.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

So they hate consoles for being anti-consumer and won't support it in any way, so they support FFXIV, which is on consoles.

Fucking kek.

[Derio]

Its funny because they are playing FFXIV which supports consoles. So by that logic they should quit the game because playing FFXIV goes against what they stand for

[SuperZay]

People entirely miss the point that party leader can setup any rules he wants. If you fnd them stupid or ridiculous, you are at luxury to setup your own party. I find lootmaster 'in order of joining' parties even more stupid, but I don't complain about them on the official forum.

[Leloa]

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