Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
The single button smasher IS the cruddy tank or healer though, the button just changes to the AOE heal or the flashiest Tank skill instead of the big numbered one for DPS. This is OP's concern. Someone who thinks this is how you play (SMASH DAT BUTTON!!) and anyone who suggests different is elitist or playing the game like a job.
These people aren't going to calmly sit there while you push numbers at them. They're going to yell "YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB" and then report YOU for harassment. They've never read a log, they have NO idea what their DPS or HPS or Threat generation looks like and wouldn't respond to those values even if presented with them.
I don't deny parsers are a valuable tool, but in this case, as in the people the OP is referring to, they are not helpful (and partially I don't think this thread will benefit from the pro/anti parser discussion that always comes out of that) for the type of player who learned incorrectly or refuses to take advice. I'm purposely going to avoid any discussion on the pro/cons and just say in this case it would not benefit anyone to bring it into this interaction.
I can certainly see what you're saying but I think the diffrrence comes down to the skill floor for dps versus tanks and healers. In casual content the skill floor of dps (outside of a specific dps check like the swords in Ala Mhigo) is just like... don't get kicked or DC. For tanks and healers there is an actual function to perform aside from killing enemies that will wipe the group rather quickly when it's left unattended.

I'm not scared of harassment reports because I know I don't harrass anyone. Right now I play on PS4 exclusively so no one can say I'm parsing and when I do give advice it's always respectful anyways.

I agree I don't want this thread to go down that rabbit hole but I do think some sort of very basic meter showing your primary role's metric (at least) compared to what it should be for the content you're running would not be crazy. It wouldn't even be a parser in the classical sense. I don't know, I want to believe that if someone had evidence on their screen that they were playing in a way that inconvenienced others they would try to rectify the situation. Maybe I'm naive though.

Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
I got to say, maybe i misinterpreted the purpose of your thread. Could you clarify something for me?

In your op, you say:
"I'm talking about the BLM that spams Thunder."
"The WAR that presses only Butcher's Block"

Why do you feel a BLM spamming Freeze is okay, especially considering the two examples above are not? Personally, if I am a grouped with a BLM that spams freeze and/or thunder, I would make an attempt at guiding them into a proper rotation.
I know this is a bit off topic but honestly what is your purpose in this thread? Like, you clicked on it and decided to reply but to what end? What are you advocating? It sounds like you have a similar approach to bad play that many of the people you're arguing against employ so then... why are you here?

The only thing I can connect is that you have something against people complaining about those poor players that we all encounter? Like a 'stop whining' goal? If so I feel like that is entirely out of place on a forum designed for discussion of a video game but at least I would know where you stand.