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    SE probably ran the business case, and found that they make more if one person spends $100 on a statue after costs for the emote, then if 25 people spent $4 for it alone. That is, they cant depend on 25 people buying the emote for every one who would buy the statue. Like there aren't enough casual spenders to make the targets they want to reach, so they need to focus on big spenders instead. It sucks, but this is gaming now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    stuff.
    Typically your fashion example is actually really good. The fashion industry is driven by the desire to be different and it's often said there are 2 groups of people within the fashion world. The trend setters and the trend followers. It is the trend setters that create that new image or look in order to stand out and be different from the rest. The trend followers see that new / different look and then copy it. Which is why the trend followers are usually "soooo last season..." as by the time they've copied it the trend setters have made themselves different again.

    Another example within the fashion world is things like Hollywood award ceremonies or premieres. No one wants to turn up wearing the same look or dress as someone else, they all want to stand out from the crowd. hell that happens in everyday life as well. If my partner turned up to a Christmas party in the same dress someone else was wearing it'd be a disaster...

    Technology as well is another example. having a 1080p hd tv in ya living room years ago was something that made you stand out from the masses, yet these days everyone has several of them and it's the 4k tv that set you apart from the rest.

    Think of your resume. You really don't want your resume to look like everyone elses. You want it to stand out and say "hey give me the job..." If it's just another one of the same thing an employers read 100 times your's is going straight in the rejected pile along with the rest of them.

    As for eyesight it's not necessarily something that isn't valued it's just something that's taken for granted. and never even considered. How many times do you see a color blind thread about something that's actually hard for some folks to see. the simplified blm job guage being the most recent example. Eyesight is simply taken for granted and thus it was never considered that some people might not be able to see certain colors on things like those job guages

    In game its everywhere you look to. When people go afk in the reach on there shiny new shin ex mount that no one else has yet. the only reason players do it is to stand out and say hey look at me. if that player was afk on ifrits pony no one would even look twice because everyone has that.

    Kinda be like owning an aston martin. wouldn't be anywhere near as cool if the entire city was driving them.

    Legacy's as well. No one wants to be remembered for doing something everyone else has already done. They want to be remembered for doing something different that sets them apart. Like the guy who discovered dna, or the guy that discovered penicillin.

    It is the desire to stand out and be different that drives the whole world and progress / innovation. Without it we'd still be in the stone ages as everyone would have simply been happy being the same as everyone else.

    But instead the world is driven by the those people that wantto be different and do things no one else ever has that will make them stand out from the crowd.

    There are millions of studies out there related to Optimal Distinctiveness Theory and tons of other psychological behaviours.

    The one I linked is basically about the balance between 2 human desires.
    1:- the human desire to stand out and be unique / valued
    2:- the desire to also fit in and be socially accepted.

    Another example is the games character customization. lots of threads around here about new races and more customisation options etc etc. why? because people want to be unique and stand out. and not look like everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    there's no value in something everyone else has.
    Value is something each person determines for themselves on an individual basis. If you feel like an item is less valuable because other people have it, that’s because *you* feel that way, and you don’t really have anyone to blame but yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    And yet we players will just eat those tactics and give em a pass. If people stopped buying them and held these companies accountable for their shitty buisness practices that prey on the impatient, the young, and the impressionable, they’d stop releasing this stuff and go back to locking these items behind in-progression. But no, we groan, buy it anyway cause it’s cool, and tell the companies it’s okay.
    Do you honestly believe these companies would suddenly, out of the new found kindness of their hearts, take a financial loss and just add everything into the game? What would actually happen is this content simply wouldn't be made. Look no further than Mass Effect: Andromeda. EA shelved all DLC due to the negative reception. It wasn't going to make them money, so they stopped bothering with it.
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    A lot of people don't seem to understand how official merchandise works. Third party companies are usually involved, hired to create merchandise in the likeness of the characters of popular franchises. A portion of the money made, then, goes to that third party company. Another portion goes to Square Enix itself and may or may not find its way back into funding FFXIV.

    The emote is there as an extra incentive to get people to buy it and make a profit for both Square Enix and the third party company involved. So selling it on the Mog Station would remove the incentive and when future statues go on sale less people would buy them as they'd just assume they could wait it out and eventually get it themselves for a fraction of the cost.
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    Then people shouldn't say the emote isn't a factor, the emote is well factored into the price if it's a motivation big enough that could affect sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Do you honestly believe these companies would suddenly, out of the new found kindness of their hearts, take a financial loss and just add everything into the game? What would actually happen is this content simply wouldn't be made. Look no further than Mass Effect: Andromeda. EA shelved all DLC due to the negative reception. It wasn't going to make them money, so they stopped bothering with it.
    Except that’s how gaming used to be. Costumes were built into the game progression when I first started gaming. Most games have the systems built in and then, due to the popularity and monetary benefit of loot boxes, which should have been kept to Free to Play games, they got caught by the allure of locking cosmetic items behind some kind of paywall.

    The Jimqusition covers this rather nicely.
    https://youtu.be/Ce5CDrq4dGg “It’s just cosmetic.”
    https://youtu.be/NLDid1UNyg8 “Year of the Lootbox.”

    Eventually this slippery slope will lead to even more smarmy buisness tactics, locking desirable content, emotes, etc. behind paywalls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

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    I was inclined to agree that the emote should be available separately, but then I imagined hordes of people spamming it around the Limsa Aetheryte and thus concluded SE has done the right thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    I was inclined to agree that the emote should be available separately, but then I imagined hordes of people spamming it around the Limsa Aetheryte and thus concluded SE has done the right thing.
    If it were available separately then fewer people would purchase the statues. What do you propose they associate with the statues as a bonus to encourage more people to buy it? At that point, what will you say to the people demanding that that different incentive is made available to them as well? In the end, it just comes down to people making excuses just because they want something they cannot afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    If it were available separately then fewer people would purchase the statues. What do you propose they associate with the statues as a bonus to encourage more people to buy it? At that point, what will you say to the people demanding that that different incentive is made available to them as well? In the end, it just comes down to people making excuses just because they want something they cannot afford.
    Did you even read what I typed? I said SE was right to limit it. Not that my post was wholly serious. Not sure why you're complaining to me...
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