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  1. #41
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    I don't understand exclusivity, why should you care what someone else has? I just love the emote, it really made me smile. I don't care if everyone has it!
    Because of the basic human desire to stand out from the crowd and be an individual.

    Exclusivity is quite key to that. And there's no value in something everyone else has.

    I could give you a full psychological run down but I don't want to write a book.
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  2. #42
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    uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu's Avatar
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    If you don't like the statue just give it for christmas present to someone.
    The emote will still be priced $120 simply because it's a finished product out of the manufacturer.
    No one sane going to sell you for $20 when they spend $100 making it.
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  3. #43
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    I don't really like the emote (too simple), the statue is cool but I won't spend that much for something I don't really like!...

    I would have liked the Diamond Dust from Shiva in Final Fantasy X but I guess FFXIV's dev team would never do something so extravagant!...
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    I love the emote, and I wish I was a fan a Shiva, so I could justify the purchase. Sadly, I can't find any good excuse to spend that much money on the emote, no matter how much I like it ;_;
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    What are you talking about? They should hence the word exclusive content, then again any type of collectable merchandise can only really be appreciated by die hard fans who can afford them. It may seem a bit unfair to some, however it is a great way for revenue from a business perspective. The limited edition figure types are even appreciated more, emotes is just an extra way of the company saying thank you for your support. Now for the main question as a collector, Do you want to depreciate the value by opening it? It may suck but yes some of us by two of them or even more one for our personal use, and one for our main collection.
    I'm well aware in game bonus do exist, and across other titles... what I said is they shouldn't.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    I'm well aware in game bonus do exist, and across other titles... what I said is they shouldn't.
    Once again I ask why not? The game is not being affected were it is a requirement, and it's more of optional content anyways. It is a nice incentive for the company just wanting to say thank you for your support. I'm sure that this does not just include figures anyways, Audio, and art books are another great example. People don't buy them for emotes and the market is mainly focus on collectors or people who enjoy art. By saying it shouldn't can you at least emphasize on why? What harm does it really do? From a collectors perspective and a person who enjoys these kind of things it really is great that the company is providing exclusive content to us. Now I would love to see a Diablo one as well. Maybe add unique actual combat skills. I say why not? Those who want to pay for a piece of art should be allowed to. Think about it from my perspective jump potions ruin the quality of players to an extend, eventually they will build up the experience and become decent players. SE excuse was to allow new players to be with their friends in content progress wise. Yet those who play with them outside of their circle will put up with it by force. Hence once again, what is wrong with an emote that does not interfere with the story line? All it really demonstrates is that we wanted spent money and it's just a nice bonus. Who does not like free stuff for a game that their playing? These emotes are account based not individual character base.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 12-23-2017 at 04:57 AM.

  7. #47
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    It’s no different than a lot of the smarmy tactics gaming companies use to gain unlimited income. From opening your lootboxes in front of a group of people to make them jealous, to matching the people not by skill level, but whether or not you bought cash shop items, to building whole games and their progression behind lootboxes and cash shop items (looking at you, Battlefront II and Destiny 2). They are made the way they are for shameless money grabbing. The haves versus the have nots. The haves will buy it because they want the exclusivity, and the have nots will buy it out of jealousy because they want to be included in the cool next thing. For me, the costs are: $175 actually it looks like. $145 plus shipping.

    And yet we players will just eat those tactics and give em a pass. If people stopped buying them and held these companies accountable for their shitty buisness practices that prey on the impatient, the young, and the impressionable, they’d stop releasing this stuff and go back to locking these items behind in-progression. But no, we groan, buy it anyway cause it’s cool, and tell the companies it’s okay.

    Should give the Jimqusition a heads up. He covers this with classic hilarious gamer rage.
    https://youtu.be/zTsWd4M53JU
    https://youtu.be/NLDid1UNyg8
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    Last edited by Kisagami; 12-23-2017 at 07:59 AM.
    Taisynn Arghal of Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisagami View Post
    We’re all advocating for the type of game we want to see. Mine just happens to clash with yours. I like a story driven game, where people can come together as a community, and defeat challenges based on a PVE format. I want to work together. [snip] You’re not gonna like what I say, but I’m gonna say it regardless because I want Square Enix to hear the other side.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    And there's no value in something everyone else has.
    Do you value your eyesight? Everyone else has eyesight as well, so logically, you'd have to value blindness higher than eyesight, because it's more rare.

    I mean, twisted people exist, so that might well be a view some people have. But it certainly doesn't explain why people adjust to their social groups, rather than standing out with their behavior. Look no further than fashion trends - you'd be one heck of a special person if you'd run around in victorian era clothes right now, but nobody does it. The opposite is the case: People are trying to fit in, they wear similar clothes and emulate each others behavior. If standing out was a basic human desire, social norms wouldn't have a chance to develop, as everyone but a few deviants would try to break them before they even form.

    When going into a restaurant, nobody cares about what the rarest dish is either. Instead, people value the dishes by their personal preferences, rather than rarity. People typically don't base their decisions on whether to buy a washing machine or car on the rarity either, they value the practical use of mobility/easier cleaning. A rare disease or condition isn't valued either, in spite of its rarity. Being the only one at a party who can't get a dance partner may be exclusive to you, but it's typically perceived as miserable. Being "the odd one out" in general doesn't have a positive connotation.

    Thus, it is very apparent people not only do very strongly value things that are not exclusive at all, they also do not necessarily value things that are very exclusive. What does that say about exclusivity? It obviously doesn't have much to do with value, because even the correlation is shoddy at best, deriving a causation is even more problematic.

    As such... it is very puzzling why artificial exclusivity continues to persist. I personally assume that people simply hope to cover up some social need deficiency with it, like a lack of attention or social acknowledgement. Results vary. It's not rare that people get unhappy about their exclusivity status because they are met with envy and contempt instead of whatever they were hoping for.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Because of the basic human desire to stand out from the crowd and be an individual.

    Exclusivity is quite key to that. And there's no value in something everyone else has.

    I could give you a full psychological run down but I don't want to write a book.
    This is proven wrong just by the fact that the hempen top is among the most popular glamours used. It's available to everyone, and it's still getting used by so many people. Why? Because it looks good. Here's another example: if people liked exclusivity I wouldn't see dozens of holiday bears every time I log in. But the bear is cool and new and that's why people use it.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Because of the basic human desire to stand out from the crowd and be an individual.
    Zojha already gave the general rundown, but I'll throw in my own personal damage and admit that some items in this game I bought because I didn't want to feel left out. So this has a mix of two things - exclusivity is wrongfully equated to status, which makes people like you want to have a thing while denying other people the thing. But once a group has been established, most people will want in on it to feel like they belong. In which case SE not cashing in on that group seems kind of stupid, the emote already exists.

    And there's no value in something everyone else has.
    You could, you know. Enjoy the thing for what it is in relation to you yourself.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 12-23-2017 at 08:22 AM.

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