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[AxlStream]

I just love how people go "fix housing, it's so simple look at x game, y game and z game". Oh you mean games with dedicated MMO teams with multiple years experience if not decade at this point that have the MMO as a major part of the publisher and not a sort of spin-off like XIV?

[LastFireAce]

I just love how people go "fix housing, it's so simple look at x game, y game and z game". Oh you mean games with dedicated MMO teams with multiple years experience if not decade at this point that have the MMO as a major part of the publisher and not a sort of spin-off like XIV?

I don't understand what you traying to say?
Sure XIV didn't start great but it did start with Experience MMO Creator (XI) but they fail then Yoshi and his delicate team had to fix they mess... Trust me notone in the history of MMO has show more dedication to his game/community then Yohsi&Team... But even they EXP is limited like any men...
Btw XIV is not a sort of spin off in SE Eye, they been treating XIV as main dish for a while now. .-.
In HW pre-release they hardly told anyone in the world besides the community but SB announcement where EVERYWHERE even on thos street poster.

[Lazaruz]

Btw XIV is not a sort of spin off in SE Eye, they been treating XIV as main dish for a while now. .-.

I dont think the argument is how SE's treating FF14 in terms of publicity, but rather budgetwise.
I have no clue if this is still the case, but last I checked it was fairly well documented that SE was (/is) siphoning the profits made by FF14 into other titles, instead of reinvesting it into FF14, opting to leave the MMO on a rather limited budget.

A budget I'm fairly certain all those "other" MMO's with housing systems are way, way above

[Cakekizyy]

I dont think the argument is how SE's treating FF14 in terms of publicity, but rather budgetwise.
I have no clue if this is still the case, but last I checked it was fairly well documented that SE was (/is) siphoning the profits made by FF14 into other titles, instead of reinvesting it into FF14, opting to leave the MMO on a rather limited budget.

A budget I'm fairly certain all those "other" MMO's with housing systems are way, way above

SOE did same with EQ.

[AxlStream]

I don't understand what you traying to say?
Sure XIV didn't start great but it did start with Experience MMO Creator (XI) but they fail then Yoshi and his delicate team had to fix they mess... Trust me notone in the history of MMO has show more dedication to his game/community then Yohsi&Team... But even they EXP is limited like any men...
Btw XIV is not a sort of spin off in SE Eye, they been treating XIV as main dish for a while now. .-.

No, what I mean is that XIV is a side project to SE. See what they all deployed for FF XV? Yeah XIV got maybe.... 20%? 30%? at best and it shows. SE still doesn't believe the game can be a huge success so they don't invest the ressources and don't recruit the talent needed for this to go to the next level. It's a side project in the scope of things and is being treated as such by the big wigs.

[HyoMinPark]

No, what I mean is that XIV is a side project to SE. See what they all deployed for FF XV? Yeah XIV got maybe.... 20%? 30%? at best and it shows. SE still doesn't believe the game can be a huge success so they don't invest the ressources and don't recruit the talent needed for this to go to the next level. It's a side project in the scope of things and is being treated as such by the big wigs.

I agree with this. And I think the mindset and treatment comes from how huge of a failure 1.0 was. I feel like SE probably thinks there's no point in investing a ton of resources in a newer version of the game that single-handedly almost destroyed the Final Fantasy name, and, as a result of their behavior, it's very likely they'll set themselves up for a "self-fulfilling prophecy", in which the game doesn't reach anywhere near its potential because they won't let it/invest the resources in it. And it will come off as subpar in their eyes as a result, just like they initially believed.

This is all speculation though, of course.

[AnimaAnimus]

I feel like SE probably thinks there's no point in investing a ton of resources in a newer version of the game that single-handedly almost destroyed the Final Fantasy name

And this game has so much untapped potential. It would be amazing if they devoted the talent and resources to it. Could you imagine if they were able to take their biggest failure and turn it into their biggest success? That would be incredible and would be something that would not only go down in gaming history but be a major boon to the franchise and company as a whole. And frankly they need it.

SE also suffers from too much upper level control. Yoshi can say he's a gamer all he wants but really he's just a suit in some jingly bangles. The FF series was never better than when people who loved games and gaming had more control. But now that people see those dollar signs, those business guys are coming in, who have no idea what makes a good game, and just trying to make a quick buck. This is something a lot of companies are suffering from right now and it stinks. I don't think that these people understand gamers are different from your average consumer.

Show us your good and you get our loyalty, put out half finished content that no one bothered to play with dev mode shut off and then tell them its just throw away content that was never meant to last more than a month anyway and that's a great way to shoot yourself in the foot.

[JunseiKei]

I agree with this. And I think the mindset and treatment comes from how huge of a failure 1.0 was. I feel like SE probably thinks there's no point in investing a ton of resources in a newer version of the game that single-handedly almost destroyed the Final Fantasy name, and, as a result of their behavior, it's very likely they'll set themselves up for a "self-fulfilling prophecy", in which the game doesn't reach anywhere near its potential because they won't let it/invest the resources in it. And it will come off as subpar in their eyes as a result, just like they initially believed.

This is all speculation though, of course.

I'd wish they'd dump more into FFXIV and Yoshida and Team's hands. Rather it go to them than putting someone like Nomura in charge of multiple projects and possibly ruining the title due to such a decision. *Eyeing FXV and wearily watches FFVIIR.* Not saying it's entirely Nomura's fault, but SE has been making some rather........... questionable.... decisions in that regard. Why are you stacking even more work on one employee when you have others that are just as willing and probably show promise?

I also completely blame Kingdom Hearts to a degree. I swear, because the game sold stupidly well in the West, it changed what SE thinks we want. I can't help but notice how similarly FFXV and KH play. Both series spanning over various types of games and consoles (well, PS4 and mobile for FFXV) to tell a whole story that really could have been told in one, longer game (in the case of FFXV). Get ready for FFXV 1.5 and FFXV 1.8.

Housing should really be instanced. I don't mean the house is instanced and the ward its own instance. I mean the whole thing should be instanced, much like an apartment, with your plot of land there for you to customize. FCs should be in the main city and there should be a "guild hall" like building. Trust me, I love how the Goblet looks now especially, but if it came to having an FC or personal house for all or keeping my hotspring in the desert? Uh, FC/housing for all, yes please. Give me the Goblet as a place I can choose as a basic environment for my instanced land.

On to the topic, don't really think the auto demolition should be quite back up yet. Puerto Rico is still reeling from the hurricane with some cities still running on generators. Not to mention asinine laws that were put in place via the USA that made getting aid to the island an actual hassle. I'm sure PR's player population is low, so in the end it doesn't matter, it just still sucks for those that can't do anything about it. At least the team was kind enough to suspend it in the first place. CAT5 hurricanes are not the norm.

[Ayer2015]

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I think their being cautious about the game is reasonable. Given how many MMOs have failed over the years, 1.0 included, it makes sense to to conservative with how much funding it being directed to the game. When HW launched, they were surprised by the level of success it had, and yet again with SB. Perhaps we will see larger investment in the future. After HW they did get a larger degree of funding for SB.

That said, while I understand the demand for housing.... I would rather see increased funding going to development of repeatable, long term content and a wider range of character and armor models. IMO housing wards need to be nearly completely overhauled. More ghost town wards, don't make much sense.