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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Wasn't this statement made back when the game had, like, 1 million accounts, tops, with less than half of thatlogging in at peak? Maybe they heavily underestimated the amount of players that would be playing?
    Does not matter, it does not change the fact he went against his own word and said nothing about it, like apologizing, or what needs to be done till we get a bigger budget from SE, something. I always figured the auto demo was a temp solution but it seems to be going for far to long as a temp solution, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Those are two different arguments. Criticising Yoshida for going back on his word is not the same as conflating auto-demolition and taking a break. Put simply, you can still take a break, you'll just lose your house if it extends beyond 45 days.
    I explained why you are word twisting, I am amazed you are defending it.

    He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

    Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I explained why you are word twisting, I am amazed you are defending it.

    He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

    Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
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    Except I'm not. You are, again, conflating two different arguments. The person I quoted implied people with houses cannot take breaks, thus it contradicts Yoshida's stance. You can still take a break, just not an lengthily one, making it a false comparison.

    As for Yoshida going back on that remark. I accept he may have grossly underestimated housing given the game's relaunch was only three months old. It's entirely unrealistic to have such a limiting system and not have some sort of auto-demolition, regardless of what was said prior. Does that absolve him of criticism? Of course not, but unless they ever do fix housing, a system like this is needed otherwise wards will inevitably go barren when players leave.

    Instead, I'll criticise the system itself, which should have been abandoned ages ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    He flat out said we will not have any system like that, it could be a year for an auto demo, it still breaks what he said.

    Or maybe do you not understand what "but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that."
    means
    The developers had to implement an auto-demolition system; otherwise, I could guarantee that the majority of houses would be sitting in the Wards completely unused because the owners no longer play the game.

    Which would you rather have? A system with no demolition in which plots belonging to owners that haven’t played the game since 2.55 or 3.0 or 3.3 sit collecting dust, or a system where houses are demolished after 45 days of inactivity from the owner so that people who are actively playing can actually own a house in a housing system that cannot even provide enough houses to satisfy 20% of the entire active playerbase?
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    Yes, they should do no auto-demo and have a functional housing system that is available to everyone, not first come first serve.
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    Ive said it before, after watching just Mist for 8 MONTHS, gdi that was insane, to get mansion I watched small houses come open constantly and medium at least 1-2 a week, and that was only in Mist.

    Which speaks volumes for all the people who own houses but no longer play. The wards would be full of empty houses if it were not for the reclaim system. They put it in for a reason, I am sure they saw this exact trend and that is why.

    If SE actually had the amount of subs they boast about, then they would have the money to keep housing servers going for 1 person but when you look at real sub numbers...

    Wards were and still are a mistake, for this reason if none else. They just cannot let it go though. It's like when you do something silly and you know you are wrong but you just wont admit it and keep fighting no matter what.
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    Untill housing is an option for every player, I fear auto-demolish is a necessary evil. When SE fixes housing and gives everyone the option to get one, then I think auto-demolish needs to go, but untill then it has to stay or else we will have inactive players who own a house, but not use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Untill housing is an option for every player, I fear auto-demolish is a necessary evil. When SE fixes housing and gives everyone the option to get one, then I think auto-demolish needs to go, but untill then it has to stay or else we will have inactive players who own a house, but not use them.
    This.

    It's already bad enough that a lot of players only have a house for the sake of having a house. At least the demolition feature frees up some space every now and then. I'd definitely like to see more wards and houses added over time, though. With a larger focus on providing more medium/large houses ideally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Untill housing is an option for every player, I fear auto-demolish is a necessary evil. When SE fixes housing and gives everyone the option to get one, then I think auto-demolish needs to go, but untill then it has to stay or else we will have inactive players who own a house, but not use them.
    SE gets sub. vendor sub, soon, mobile phone sub.
    A cash shop with more than 600 dollars of stuff...

    It is not "autodemolition time they give house to everyone" we should request but

    "Stop spending FFXIV money in other project, and give what FFXIV needs" is what we need to request
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.
    Quote Originally Posted by GILDREIN View Post
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: [...]these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    The biggest problem as well is the community to be fair. They expect so much and are so vocal about minor systems in the grand scope of things that it makes it difficult for positive feedback to reach the higher ups and change their mindset. Look at the new glamour revision. It's a first step, Yoshi admitted it's a first step. People still complain WHILE IT'S NOT EVEN PATCHED IN YET. That sends the wrong signal to the decision makers and ends up shooting us in the foot. This doesn't mean don't complain but realize they basically made something out of very little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    The biggest problem as well is the community to be fair. They expect so much and are so vocal about minor systems in the grand scope of things that it makes it difficult for positive feedback to reach the higher ups and change their mindset. Look at the new glamour revision. It's a first step, Yoshi admitted it's a first step. People still complain WHILE IT'S NOT EVEN PATCHED IN YET. That sends the wrong signal to the decision makers and ends up shooting us in the foot. This doesn't mean don't complain but realize they basically made something out of very little.
    Honestly, the only real complaint I have about the new glamour system is that I really hope they don't call it a Glamour Commode. Just because "commode" means toilet in my dialect. Other than that, I usually just wait and see before I judge. I can tell they put a lot of work into it; hopefully it will be something I make a lot of use of.
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