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  1. #13381
    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    The heads at that section will break aggro and reset after you get far enough out, and the balance at the end can be activated without tablets, which just causes a group to spawn. In other words, you can skip 3 groups for the price of 1 group at the end of the dungeon.
    I realise that in hindsight, and I think again it comes down to miscommunication. If he'd said at the start "I'm speedrunning" then I would have known what was going on, known he definitely wasn't new and confused, and just done my best to keep up.

    I was just trying to be helpful, but I won't be doing it again if someone else skips that section.
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  2. #13382
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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Character
    Kleeya White
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    So yesterday i decide to try again some O2S training for the 4th day in a row for, who knows, finally beat it. Yes i know i am kinda late for that, but i usually am not that much into instanced content anyway.

    I join the only training group available as the 7th member, the 8th member join some seconds after me. Looking at the composition of the group i see some strange players names who feels like jokes or trolling. A bad omen i think, but whatever, i am gonna ignore that and still gonna stay to see how it is going.

    I quickly say "E/NE dps" because i did learn that if you do have a position you are used too you had better claim it quickly so that it doesn't get stolen by another player.

    Others start saying "A", "C", "B", and such... Wait, i have seen some groups not putting the letters in the same place, how is this right ? Isn't it better to use fixed directions like E, N and so on to not screw up the fight ? I ask the question and get an answer like "A, B, C, D are always clockwise, somebody doing differently need to have their brain checked". Ok, another bad omen, but i am still gonna stay.

    Positions all given, and... uh what ? All dps are north for the phase where the boss launch us in the air ? Every video guide and every group i did come by were putting tow dps north and two dps south in the corners to not overlap. I question that, half expecting to be kicked to be annoying by making too much remarks, and am told "it is gonna be fine !". The 8th member say something like "i am looking forward to see that ! XD", apparently exepecting to see all dps die. Another another bad omen... but i am still gonna stay.

    We begin the fight and quickly someone (lets call him XYZ) die. I see a "Rezzing XYZ... I whish i was dead too" dark humor macro. Another another another bad omen, especially that every death and thus dps loss make it hard to not reach enrage, but oh well, i am still gonna stay. It isn't today that i will finish O2S, but at least i will get more used to all the mechanics.

    The fight goes on, with some other screw ups. Wait, despite them isn't the boss life bar depleting quite quickly ? No time to look into further, here come the launch into the air mechanic, all dps north aannnndddd... wtf, we didn't die at all. Okay, i was wrong to be worried on this one. The fight still goes on, with even more screw ups, but the boss life bar is indeed depleting quite fast, and we end up hitting enrage at 4%, a way better result than all the attempts i did except one which was at 1%.

    At this point i was like "wtf his happening ?".

    A few tries later, with people getting a bit more concentrated on what they were doing, i did get my first O2S clear with a group that looked at first quite strange and worrying, but was in fact very good compared to the ones i was in before.

    Seems like bad omens can be misleading sometimes.
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  3. #13383
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Character
    Arlizz Teirez
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Trial Roullette as Mnk.Got Bismark (hm).
    Bonus message was popped.so I check party list.
    3 dps viewing cut scences.2 of them were sprouts.
    Their lvl were around 58 - 64.
    “I think I know where this is going” I told myself.
    The fight had started,almost needed 3 jumps to finish the first outer shell or back whtever its called.
    Then double sanuwas’s time.3 newbie dps go for the green,I went for the blue.
    The blue one died while the green got around 40% even with both healers’s help.
    And yes,enraged got us.all I can do is real life /facepalm.
    This is because I’m not good enough.
    I can carry 1 dps or 2 dps through the fight but I can’t carry 3 dps.
    I’m so sorry mother Hyd...Hid...er... Hydra.
    (0)

  4. #13384
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    Namallama's Avatar
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    Character
    Levenin Refure
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Pro tip: yelling at people for messing up mechanics (especially if they can be salvaged, albeit in a very short time span) in the middle of a busy fight does not do anything but stress them out. You will not make them perform any better.

    Sincerely,
    An Elfy Bard

    (I just got out of a stressful Omega 1.0 Savage run where the WHM was getting super mad at everyone for not being 100% perfect. This is just a small vent. ;u; )
    (12)

    Saskia Ljosalfr - SCH/BRD - Midgardsormr | Levenin Refure - AST - Balmung
    M'ihrima Ulei - WHM - Balmung

  5. #13385
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Character
    Shadow Link
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Last night I was helping a friend from another server to get some stuff from V4N. We queued up with some of my FC friends. So, the fight started normally. I was focusing myself on tanking and one of my friends noticed something odd. We were on Discord and he says "The SAM is spamming AoE moves". Indeed he was. His DPS was roughly 1k. He was also eating all the AoEs of the universe and died a lot. The healers stopped raising him and said "it was a waste of MP if he wasn't going to cooperate with DPS".

    The SAM said what was wrong with that. Well, spamming AoE moves on single targets is kind of self-explanatory. The SAM said "Why does it matter" and got offended because he didn't get resurrected. The whole group pretty much said "If you're playing with others, put some effort into it, it's a team." I almost cried. That was a first, no one was defending poor gameplay for once.
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  6. #13386
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    Lammas's Avatar
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    Character
    Combo Lammas
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    POTD. Tank and healer with the same last name. I'm on WHM and there's a MCH.

    MCH uses Manticore on last 2 floors and kills everything. We are at the cairn when a kick vote commences and the MCH gets kicked out. I ask why I get this:

    Me: Why
    Tank: Manticore
    Me: So
    Tank: I'm tank
    Me: I repeat, so?
    Me: It doesn't matter
    You have been dismissed from the party and the duty.

    Where do these superheroes come from?
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  7. #13387
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    TheAngelneer's Avatar
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    Character
    S'vhele Cottl
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lammas View Post
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    You should report them if you haven't already, this can be considered griefing and it is a banable offense
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  8. #13388
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    Kanitezz's Avatar
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    Character
    Jubii Io
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Tank takes crapton of damage
    Me: Swiftcast > Regen
    /facepalm
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  9. #13389
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    Lammas's Avatar
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    Combo Lammas
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAngelneer View Post
    You should report them if you haven't already, this can be considered griefing and it is a banable offense
    Yeah, I did report them. That whole thing made completely zero sense.
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  10. #13390
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    JohnnyDevo's Avatar
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    J'majha Devo
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
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    "everyone north" is a very common optimization strategy in o2s. The reason being that when the ranged tuck themselves into the corners of the northern safe zone and the boss is in the middle of the safe zone, everyone can be in range of the boss without overlapping any of the aoes. In addition, everyone should be in range of cure 3 if needed, and will definitely be in range of all aoe heals without the healers needing to go out of their way.

    Now, that doesn't mean they weren't in the wrong. Either they're self-important, or they're ignorant. When you take pugs, you need to be aware of pug strats. The first reason is so that you know what you should be doing if you're the pug, and the second reason is so you know what the pug in your party is expecting. If you're a party of 6 or 7, realize that the other player(s) will be expecting pug strat, and explain what you're doing different before you just start going about your business.

    I'm personally going to go with ignorant, in their case. I'm guessing that some raider taught them this method and they're mimicking it because it's "obviously the only way to do it". Reason being is because they even reached enrage at all. My group has had weeks where we have like 8 dps deaths and we still nap the clear 20 seconds before enrage. In fact we don't even do that "all north" optimization. We were too busy progging 3 and 4 to talk about 2 and we just kinda settled.
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