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  1. #11
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    Fernosaur's Avatar
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    You don't need to have a 100% Regen/Medica II uptime.

    Well, Regen is debatable. As long as the tank is getting hit in the face, yes, have a constant Regen uptime on them and throw rocks at the boss or spam Holy @ trash pulls while it ticks. Medica II, however, definitely doesn't need a 100% uptime, even if it stacks with Regen on the tank. Regen alone is usually enough to keep the tank up to healthy HP levels, and when they dip below your comfort zone you have Tetragramatton and Benediction to save them.

    Asylum stacks with everything else, and it's actually quite handy to put it down on the tank during dungeon trash pulls. You can try and use it to heal partywide attacks in dungeon bosses, but in Duty Finder most ranged DPS won't get in the bubble because... idfk.
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    In 3.x, Cover was useless and everyone wanted a gap closer. In 4.x, gap closers are useless and everyone wants Cover.

  2. #12
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90
    Clearly they do NOT stack in 24 mans because the last one I tanked we had 6 WHM's and only one regen on me. /s
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  3. #13
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    Medica 2 Just stacks partywise. Asylum does so, too
    Regen on the other hand, can be used on anybody, even outside your group.
    So if theres 6 whms and you only have 1 regen, none of them bothered to regen you because you're not the tank in their party. Even if, a lot of whms don't use regen.

    But yes, you can have all of it running at once and no matter how many whms you have in your team, they don't overwrite each other like shields do(which would be pretty op). Thats why yous ometimes have two medica 2 icons or 2 regens.
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    Last edited by Cheremia; 12-18-2017 at 10:53 PM.

  4. #14
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
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    If you see an "icon" for said effect..then yes it stacks.



    (Yes..it stacks in case your wondering)

    *assuming standard party rules/etc*
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  5. #15
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Everyone gave sound advice. If I could add anything is as you gain experience healing, you will get the feel of when and when not to stack your regens, and when to boost them with Largesse. Regen itself is pretty much 100% uptime except between pulls and towards the end of them, but medica 2 and asylum are situational. Also keep in mind that in the later levels, casting Asylum will consume your lilies.

    If running PUGs, the playstyle and gear of your tank can and will differ from queue to queue. Always let them firmly establish agro before casting your regens, and allow them to drop towards the end of the enemies health (the regens, not the tank haha!)
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  6. #16
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Glad you mentioned Largess, Gemina. I was going to mention that as well.

    I think in a lot of cases for me, the Medica II is less for the tank and more for the dps who always run out into Narnia and never dodge anything.
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki View Post
    Also worth noting that Aspected Benefic's regen does not stack with another Aspected Benefic, it works like a shield where only the most recent one exists

    . . .
    I'm almost positive that is untrue. Unless they changed something in SB.
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  8. #18
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Glad you mentioned Largess, Gemina. I was going to mention that as well.

    I think in a lot of cases for me, the Medica II is less for the tank and more for the dps who always run out into Narnia and never dodge anything.
    Regen is pretty potent on its own, especially if boosted with Largesse. Like you, I tend to use Medica 2 when I know other players are going to be taking damage. Whether this is due to unavoidable AoE, or incompetency, either of these will flag the use of Medica 2, and I don't cast it to help sustain a tank when I have so many abilities that already take care of this.

    Regen can also be cast on the move. There is a slight moment of animation lock, but it is so fast that a telegraph will have to catch you at the right moment. Medica 2 is the opposite, and not only locks you in a long cast time, but also takes away your mobility. I can't even begin to tell you how often I swiftcast this ability, because of how vulnerable it leaves you.

    Regen and Asylum to help sustain a tank however, are a no-brainer. If DPS are taking damage while Asylum is up, it like, "Yo? See that flashy big bubble thingy? Stand in it and it will heal you!"
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  9. #19
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I can't even begin to tell you how often I swiftcast this ability, because of how vulnerable it leaves you.
    I do the same thing. I swiftcast Medica II all the time. It's a convenient way to heal DPS without being locked in place.
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  10. #20
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    As above, Swiftcast Media 2 actually aligns really nicely with much of the AoE damage in Rabanastre, ensure you cast it after the hit for the PI and you can take care of much of the AoE damage whilst barely dropping the beat.
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