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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylis View Post
    I feel its more about discouraging people playing alts then anything RMT related.
    And why would you want to discourage people from playing alts? I don't get it. Having multiple characters is fun... maybe you should try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    And why would you want to discourage people from playing alts? I don't get it. Having multiple characters is fun... maybe you should try it.

    The reason you can't mail things to alts is because you have to friend list the alt, which requires that alt to be on at the same time as your main. which as far as I know you can't do either pc or console. They would have to change the friend thing, then rmt spammers would just spam us to death with mail.

    Alts have never been a thing that SE has handled well as FF games always controlled all the jobs/classes at once for the original RPG's and then XI came out and they stuck with the same concept but on a single character instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    The reason you can't mail things to alts is because you have to friend list the alt, which requires that alt to be on at the same time as your main. which as far as I know you can't do either pc or console. They would have to change the friend thing, then rmt spammers would just spam us to death with mail.

    Alts have never been a thing that SE has handled well as FF games always controlled all the jobs/classes at once for the original RPG's and then XI came out and they stuck with the same concept but on a single character instead.
    XI let you mail things to your alts freely You could even mail things to yourself which came in handy often.

    For XIV, they really need to update the current system so that any alt on your account is automatically treated as a friend with housing privileges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    You could even mail things to yourself which came in handy often.
    I would love to be able to do this. Would make it so I could keep more maps and do tons of at a time without spending anything on the maps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    XI let you mail things to your alts freely You could even mail things to yourself which came in handy often.

    For XIV, they really need to update the current system so that any alt on your account is automatically treated as a friend with housing privileges.
    XI wasn't alt friendly is all I meant.
    XI also didn't have the bot problem for RMT spam that it does in XIV at the initial time of being made, hence why they're not doing it for this. I agree it's handy to be able to mail to an alt freely but XIV isn't a free as other games sadly and it's plagued by not being able to be funded by it's own subs.

    I don't really have anything to say about the house stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    XI wasn't alt friendly is all I meant.
    XI also didn't have the bot problem for RMT spam that it does in XIV at the initial time of being made, hence why they're not doing it for this. I agree it's handy to be able to mail to an alt freely but XIV isn't a free as other games sadly and it's plagued by not being able to be funded by it's own subs.

    I don't really have anything to say about the house stuff.
    Is there any source as to them saying RMT is the reason why they won't unlock the mail system / make alts more user-friendly? I've always chalked it up to SE implementing things in the most ass-backwards way they could imagine.

    This would be a massive QOL update for this game. Perhaps find a way to track accounts that send more than X amount of mail daily and investigate further? I'm sure they could find a way to make it work .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Is there any source as to them saying RMT is the reason why they won't unlock the mail system / make alts more user-friendly? I've always chalked it up to SE implementing things in the most ass-backwards way they could imagine.

    This would be a massive QOL update for this game. Perhaps find a way to track accounts that send more than X amount of mail daily and investigate further? I'm sure they could find a way to make it work .
    No official source that I know of has said this.

    I agree it would be nice to have but it's probably tied into coding of the game saying that you need to be online in order to receive an invite of some sort. In order to bypass this they would most likely have to change the way invites work.

    I suspect the real reason they haven't changed it, is just not a high on their priority list or they just don't care enough to change it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    No official source that I know of has said this.
    It was in an official statement from Yoshida back pre-relaunch and again post launch he discussed it and blamed rmt. They used RMT as an excuse for many a things back then. But what it comes down to is they are making a lot of money off of extra retainers and they don't want to give that up. Its not something that people will quit over so they can just do it and give an excuse like rmt and it wont make any difference.

    I could try to find it but that was 3-4 years ago now so its likely buried as a preliminary search didn't pull it up. But I can dig if I get a few minutes.

    There was more than a little hubbub about it as it has made zero sense since day one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    I agree it would be nice to have but it's probably tied into coding of the game saying that you need to be online in order to receive an invite of some sort. In order to bypass this they would most likely have to change the way invites work.
    Like everyone else I have no idea what the official reason is, but it's very likely by design.

    When 2.0 came out there was a small period where you could add your alts as friends (by exiting the game in a dungeon, signing in to the other character, sending a friend request to the person in a dungeon, swapping back, coming out the dungeon and accept it), but within a few weeks SE patched/fixed it so you couldn't send friend requests to people in instances. So the way I read that is it's not so much the system couldn't do it, they just don't want us to.

    I have no idea what happened to people who added their alts during that window though and if they're still on theirs own friends list etc (I didn't have an alt at the time so never tried it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    XI let you mail things to your alts freely You could even mail things to yourself which came in handy often.

    For XIV, they really need to update the current system so that any alt on your account is automatically treated as a friend with housing privileges.
    Not sure when they added the functionality, but in FFXI you can even mail nearly all RA/EX items to alts on the same server as well. As far as I know the only exceptions are AF2 from dynamis and the rewards from main story missions (like raja's ring.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Is there any source as to them saying RMT is the reason why they won't unlock the mail system / make alts more user-friendly? I've always chalked it up to SE implementing things in the most ass-backwards way they could imagine.

    This would be a massive QOL update for this game. Perhaps find a way to track accounts that send more than X amount of mail daily and investigate further? I'm sure they could find a way to make it work .
    I'm too lazy to look it up but I believe it was one of the questions in a live letter near when 2.0 came out.
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