Let's add an option, SE [Previous PVP System]

[Kisama]

How about making the current Frontline modes cap at level 60 and revert it to the 3.x system. I'd be fine playing older modes exclusively if it meant getting all the old abilities back.

Make frontline great again and put the newer 9 button garbage modes in the Golden Saucer as minigames, where they belong.

[SummerScorcher]

How about making the current Frontline modes cap at level 60 and revert it to the 3.x system. I'd be fine playing older modes exclusively if it meant getting all the old abilities back.

Make frontline great again and put the newer 9 button garbage modes in the Golden Saucer as minigames, where they belong.

That is a great suggestion, I'll add it to the main post! However, while I'd take this any day over what we have now, I would like to be able to use the lv70 abilities in PVP as well. Perhaps capping them at 70 instead of 60 would be an idea?

[RiyahArp]

The 70 abilities combined with the old 60 ones would break the game. You think healing is bad now. Just keep it at 60.

[Wintersandman]

The 70 abilities combined with the old 60 ones would break the game. You think healing is bad now. Just keep it at 60.

We have the 70 abilities now. I don't see how it would break anything.

[RiyahArp]

We have the 70 abilities now. I don't see how it would break anything.

For healing as a white mage, that means not only would i have medica 2, regen, sacred prism, all my defensive abilities like attunement, and more, I'd now have shields (benison) massive MP regeneration (thin air), and a buff to my aoe heals through plenary indulgence. the 70 abilities are balanced on the post HW nerfed kit of pre 60 stuff.

[Wintersandman]

For healing as a white mage, that means not only would i have medica 2, regen, sacred prism, all my defensive abilities like attunement, and more, I'd now have shields (benison) massive MP regeneration (thin air), and a buff to my aoe heals through plenary indulgence. the 70 abilities are balanced on the post HW nerfed kit of pre 60 stuff.

But DPS would have more burst potential, Tanks would have other abilties, so would SCH and AST. Being able to use the entire kit would increase the burst potential of all DPS. Also bringing back the 3.0 scenario would go back to the 3.0 CC which all that massive MP regeneration would be null and void. Benison WHM's already have.

[RiyahArp]

I'm not sure that would help. Monk would be gimped in that situation, as all its post 60 stuff is fixing problems it had with pve or useless abilities. I'm not sure how DRK would even work, because the pve kit strains it for resources a lot more and paces it out. RDM and SAM of course have no real kits, so you'd need to add a bunch of stuff period. If you want older more complex pvp, its probably better to test it with the well defined 60 abilities first to see if it works.