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    PT with PLD as tank have better healing with their ability so that is a big+


    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    LOL MRD stole LNC's Speed Surge!
    life surge* . And they stole it they got a better version of it
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    Uhm.. granting a heal over time to all party members is going to directly increase your enmity based on the amount healed. How exactly does that not matter for tanking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronik View Post
    Uhm.. granting a heal over time to all party members is going to directly increase your enmity based on the amount healed. How exactly does that not matter for tanking?
    Yes but the heal over time is dependant on being followed up by a heal, the question is who gets the enmity ?

    IE. PLD uses skill, WHM heals .. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yes but the heal over time is dependant on being followed up by a heal, the question is who gets the enmity ?

    IE. PLD uses skill, WHM heals .. ??

    Ya that puzzle me is who get the hate. It's a healing that part is right, but isn't it just add a regen effect like casting status spell such as protect or stoneskin that type of hate? it's a little bit hard to tell. ^^:

    oh and I think above post I just want to discuss about the enmity from abilities and damage intake as a tank.
    I think it's not way too early to discuss at this stage ^^:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    PT with PLD as tank have better healing with their ability so that is a big+




    life surge* . And they stole it they got a better version of it
    Life Surge doesn't Grant Speed Boost.. only Speed Surge does :P Life Surge Lowers Evasion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Life Surge doesn't Grant Speed Boost.. only Speed Surge does :P Life Surge Lowers Evasion
    w/e it is it isnt the LNC ability, and this one MRD only heal themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    w/e it is it isnt the LNC ability, and this one MRD only heal themselves
    Life surge and Speed Surge combined.. THEY STOLE BOTH HOW DARE THEY!! :P hehe
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    LNC feels more like a DRK in XI now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Life surge and Speed Surge combined.. THEY STOLE BOTH HOW DARE THEY!! :P hehe
    I would tank in light parties as a LNC using Life Surge and another LNC using Speed Surge. Combine that with Leg Sweep, Featherfoot > Jarring Strike, Daze, and Bloodbath I rarely needed outside heals as the mob was already gone. It rarely attacked and I could keep hate if I opened with Doomspike II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    w/e it is it isnt the LNC ability, and this one MRD only heal themselves
    Ya, actually that's just Bloodbath which MRD already has natively. It only works for the next attack.

    Life Surge and Speed Surge work as an enhancement effect and proc every time you auto attack.

    No stealing of anything.
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