Who will be the best tank after 1.20? The war still going on

[Deli]

Yes but the heal over time is dependant on being followed up by a heal, the question is who gets the enmity ?

IE. PLD uses skill, WHM heals .. ??

Ya that puzzle me is who get the hate. It's a healing that part is right, but isn't it just add a regen effect like casting status spell such as protect or stoneskin that type of hate? it's a little bit hard to tell. ^^:

oh and I think above post I just want to discuss about the enmity from abilities and damage intake as a tank.
I think it's not way too early to discuss at this stage ^^:

[Starlord]

w/e it is it isnt the LNC ability, and this one MRD only heal themselves

Life surge and Speed Surge combined.. THEY STOLE BOTH HOW DARE THEY!! :P hehe

[Deli]

LNC feels more like a DRK in XI now

[Amsai]

Difficult to tell, but it looks like the enmity generating abilities might be pretty even now, so it might only come down to a choice of DPS vs survivability? Which just means situational, or duo tanking.

I will say this though, I wouldnt mind 1 more AoE WS for Glad, that isnt block dependent, just for good measure.

[Estellios]

Since you asked, the Absorb HP with next attack MRD ability sounds like our current Bloodbath and no, you don't get extra enmity with absorbed hp.

[Deli]

Difficult to tell, but it looks like the enmity generating abilities might be pretty even now, so it might only come down to a choice of DPS vs survivability? Which just means situational, or duo tanking.

I will say this though, I wouldnt mind 1 more AoE WS for Glad, that isnt block dependent, just for good measure.

I actually think about this why mrd/warrior put to the tank/DD side.
There are many DD in game. In order to make them different from others, they must have their own speciality.
Such as ARC is multi-hit DD, pug/mnk is ws DD, Lancers do spike dmg (thf in XI)
And still there is mrd/war so they ran out of idea and put mrd/war to tank side...


The other things I'm thinking over is so many skills with stun now. So maybe in the future fights we have to stun enemies a lot to survive. It sounds like lots fun. Looking forward to play DD other than just buff + ws.

[Rhomagus]

Without reading the thread at all...

Paladin for long / boss fights
Warrior for short / zerg fights

[Rhomagus]

w/e it is it isnt the LNC ability, and this one MRD only heal themselves

Ya, actually that's just Bloodbath which MRD already has natively. It only works for the next attack.

Life Surge and Speed Surge work as an enhancement effect and proc every time you auto attack.

No stealing of anything.

[Rhomagus]

Life surge and Speed Surge combined.. THEY STOLE BOTH HOW DARE THEY!! :P hehe

I would tank in light parties as a LNC using Life Surge and another LNC using Speed Surge. Combine that with Leg Sweep, Featherfoot > Jarring Strike, Daze, and Bloodbath I rarely needed outside heals as the mob was already gone. It rarely attacked and I could keep hate if I opened with Doomspike II.

[Deli]

I still have a little doubt on the "Absorb-HP" part. Bloodbath clearly said convert some dmg to hp. But I think absorb-Hp should work as thm's drain.