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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    As for tacking on code. What I'm about to say, is going to make you and everyone else who has worked with group projects laugh, but you have to use a sort of discipline and standard. But of course bureaucracies and 'leadership' make that an impossibility. But it helps so damn much as you can imagine. That's the hard part. Taking the amalgamation of crap and convincing the people above you to go to something simpler.
    That's not always the case. Throughout my career whenever I was putting together a group for a new project I always had the folks decide what the worst chunk of code was at that time. It could be due to to many bugs, structure that made it hard/impossible to extend function, written by an intern, etc. I would then build the business case to include that as a line item in the plan. It is very straight forward if you can go to management with the costs of not doing something. The key is the technical people have to be willing to take some initiative and not let management stifle the best technical solutions.

    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    I think, though I may be wrong, that Square Enix bought the company that owns the datacenter, and that the savings from having the servers under their own umbrella were why that location in particular was picked. Hence, they'd pay in one way or another all the same.
    Even if they do own the datacenter company a dynamic server pool should be less cost as the servers in the pool could be used by other customers who are covering part of the cost. The key is the servers just don't sit there idle when one customer doesn't need them.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    You're ignoring the server-side load of actually saving and maintaining all that data.
    I'm not. I even showed what such data actually looks like. When people start talking in zone chat back and forth, in the 3 capitals, it doesn't slow down the server. There's literally more information being transferred in those Static zones. If you don't believe me, check yourself.

    But saying I'm wrong doesn't prove me wrong. If you want to do that, provide your evidence. You've only posted thoughts, opinions, and emotions. Lets see if you have anything tangible.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    If some of the reports are correct FF14 is one of their big cash cows for SE thus they should have more than enough budget to implement something that will give everyone that can afford it a house.
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    If some of the reports I've read are to be believed...

    I've read that SE gets all the subscription money, and they then give the FFXIV devs a budget out of that, and not all of the profits from FFXIV subscriptions go back into FFXIV.

    I've also read that the mog station profits do go to the devs and have paid for server upgrades and relocation, the recent move to California for the NA datacenter, and the relocation of servers to the EU for their datacenter.




    Of course, I can't know the validity of any of these claims.
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  4. #114
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    @TaranTatsuuchi: Yes those are some claims that are going around. Yoshida himself once said that the cash shop is financing itself (if that is true or not who knows). If they can only upgrade their server thanks to the cash shop then I really fear the future of this game..and the importance of the shop.

    Yes as far as we know the money goes to the whole company and they get a budget. But it seems that they earn quite a big sum from FF14 thus imo they should also give them more budget which they could use for stuff like housing.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  5. #115
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    It has been known for a while now sub money from this game goes towards SE other projects, the cash shop is suppose to go back into ffxiv. But who knows if that is the case.
    Honestly this game should get a bigger budget but of course some will argue from a business standpoint....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    of course some will argue from a business standpoint....
    From a business standpoint all revenue earned from one project should go to keeping that project thriving to bring in more. Once you reach the point where your revenue exceeds your overhead(maintenance/servers/ISP/whatever else they need to run the project) then they could siphon the funds off for other projects.
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  7. #117
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    Vague, blink-and-you-miss-it details about PvP again. For Frontlines were they talking about that map rotation they've teased, or perhaps something new? Maybe that briefly-alluded-to-but-not-confirmed additional maps for modes? How about their official Light Party Feast registration/league? New gear? Maybe housing items related to PvP as has been suggested?

    Well, it's nice that it was at least asked about.
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  8. #118
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    Idk.... Despite that all 4 areas are going to have more wards..... My FC is still going to try and aim for a large plot in shirogane. That's been our goal to begin with... It doesn't give us an incentive to choose other housing areas over shirogane if they open up housing areas from ARR too... With that said.... I'm sure others have the same mindset of choosing shirogane above all else as well.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha View Post
    Idk.... Despite that all 4 areas are going to have more wards..... My FC is still going to try and aim for a large plot in shirogane. That's been our goal to begin with... It doesn't give us an incentive to choose other housing areas over shirogane if they open up housing areas from ARR too... With that said.... I'm sure others have the same mindset of choosing shirogane above all else as well.
    Shirogane Housing (Savage) Phase 2...

    Hope they add enough wards or otherwise the same thing will repeat it's self. Literally.
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    Temporarily make Shirogane a PvP area until all the houses are taken.
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