Prohibit the advertising of content sales via the cross-server PF

[Vidu]

Me: How are they receiving gil across servers? (paraphrased)

Thoughts?

Let me say first: I never was in the buisness of selling runs (seriously, why would I when crafting is so easy...) but I dont mind it being a thing - if someone wants to pay for a clear, thats their choice. If a group is good enough to carry someone, thats their thing. I dont have to like it and neither do you, but my personal stance is: Its their buisness and frankly I dont see why you'd get offended by that. Or why you're more offended by that than by people recruiting for statics using the cross-server-option. Or for even FCs, LS and such. I get your RMT-argument, and yes, RMT is a problem but this isnt RMT, its selling clears.

And heres the thing now: You dont knwo 100% that there is RMT or real money involved - its extremly likely, I'll grant you that (and my best guess aswell). But unless there are records you dont know and you have no proof of that. For all you, we and the GMs know they might be paid by the buyer joining their discord and singing Answers for the group. Or the buyer is required to get the money to them somehow - and if its transfering servers. The group could also have alts on different servers, so the payment could go to one of them. Or the group is scattered in the first place.

My point is: The obvious conclusion here is that some sort of trade outside of the game, not involving gil, is involved. But at the end of the day there is the slim chance that they're handling it differently.
And to be fair: I dont really understand how this is more annoying to anyone than any sort of recruiting for a static PFs and why thats not considered "spam" then.

So, my personal thoughts are: I'm not bothered by this and I dont really understand why you are.

[Vnolan]

People also try to recruit for FCs cross-server. People try to sell houses cross-server. People try to recruit for treasure maps cross-server.

Why assume this is all about RMT? Seems just as (or more) likely that people are just ignorant, oblivious, or just dumb.

There are players that mistakenly have the data center option checked when listing stuff that only applies to the server, but they're few and far between, are not all the same type of listing, don't require interested parties to contact them outside of the game and it's not the same people doing it. Also, they don't know to not advertise server-specific content across the data center, but they know to select duties such as Lak, Sus and Expert Roulette to maximize visibility? Of the people who mistakenly list hunts, treasure hunting, sales of crafts and the like, how many have you seen use the wrong duty? I can't recall any.

Its their buisness and frankly I dont see why you'd get offended by that.

Read the thread, people. It's in the title and one of my responses on the first page: The advertising using the cross-server party finder, NOT the selling itself. Ain't nothing SE can do about sales, regardless of payment method used.

I get your RMT-argument, and yes, RMT is a problem but this isnt RMT, its selling clears.

Across servers. That requires buyers to use real money or to buy gil and have it sent to that server.

And heres the thing now: You dont knwo 100% that there is RMT or real money involved - its extremly likely, I'll grant you that (and my best guess aswell).

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We don't know 100% that the player is botting, so it should be allowed and it shouldn't be reported? The majority of player botting is done as shown.

Spoilers: It's one of the so-called advertisers while their pf is up across the data center.

Or the buyer is required to get the money to them somehow - and if its transfering servers.

Pay real money to transfer servers after going through the hassle of having yourself meet the requirements, or use that money to buy gil and have it sent to the seller? Hmm.

You have no proof people buy with RMT gil through PF and you also have to know most just put the PF up without cling that one button, yes I know it take less than 5 seconds. But that happens to me too. I honestly refuse to take money from people from other servers as well.

Context for people not on Aether: At it's peak, there are 5+ advertisers in the cross-server pf at the same time. You'd be hard pressed to find 5 incorrect listings like you describe in total. It's the same people from the same servers.

I'll reiterate the ending of my OP: I'd love if they add filters to hide the listings, but look at the response they received in regards to housing in 4.1. They knew within a day or two and announced they have a fix in mind, but it'll be 3.5-4 months later. Fingers crossed the pf will get an update in 4.2.

[akaneakki]

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I can know it can be annoying etc. On my old server where we also sold content and still do with them through my alt when people across server ask us, we tell them we won't do it and usually the guy who does put up the pf, doesn't care if its through world or server, however if I do use the PF I make sure it's only world