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    Each entity has a tick timer, such that every three seconds, all DoTs and HoTs on that entity do their work, so we expect a 21s DoT to tick seven times.

    At 40 potency per tick, Shadow Fang will do at least 280 DoT potency on top of its initial 200 potency. Skill Speed increases DoT damage from weaponskills, so it'll do a bit extra for that too. So Shadow Fang is 480 plus speed bonus, assuming perfect reapplication timing. These numbers are normalized to you, if you're comparing only against other NIN actions.

    If you want to compare against the potencies of other jobs' actions, remember to apply the 20% bonus from Dripping Blades: 288 DoT + 240 initial, for a total of 528 plus speed bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
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    Does Determination/Crit/ and DH also have an impact on the potency of a DoT? I thought Determination also impacted the overall damage of the DoT with Crit allowing it to crit and I have no clue on Direct Hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    There's a universal server tick every three seconds at which time all DoTs and HoTs do their work, so we expect a 21s DoT to tick seven times.
    Technically, there is no such thing as a universal server tick. Every object has its own three second tick that starts when that object spawns. Your party spawns at the same time in instances unless someone joins in progress, so HoTs tend to all tick together. DoTs on different targets don't always tick together though, and ground targets like Doton are based on your tick instead of the enemy's.

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ming_research/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Does Determination/Crit/ and DH also have an impact on the potency of a DoT? I thought Determination also impacted the overall damage of the DoT with Crit allowing it to crit and I have no clue on Direct Hit.
    One of the benefits of discussing "potency" is that we don't care about any of the secondaries except for speed, as those secondaries will apply the same to any action that doesn't have an unusual effect, like a guaranteed crit. Yeah, all those stats have an effect on the action's final damage, but if we're discussing actions within the toolkit of a single person, the potency of the action is just the potency of the action.


    Quote Originally Posted by Idolon View Post
    Technically, there is no such thing as a universal server tick. Every object has its own three second tick that starts when that object spawns. Your party spawns at the same time in instances unless someone joins in progress, so HoTs tend to all tick together. DoTs on different targets don't always tick together though, and ground targets like Doton are based on your tick instead of the enemy's.

    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ming_research/
    That's an interesting read, thanks. And the part about ground targets using your own tick makes sense because it's the effect of a buff on you, not a debuff on the enemies.
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