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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I'm on the fence with this and I'll withhold final judgment until I actually see how Jobs affect the use of classes. Just because they say classes will be optimal for lower manned groups doesn't mean that's how the players will use them.

    If a Paladin does tanking better than a Gladiator...well...what else do you really use Gladiator for besides tanking? While I'm sure there are people who would like to throw on some cross class skills to form a makeshift DD, ultimately Paladin can replace Gladiator in tanking situations all around. Same with White Mage replacing Conjurer in any given healing role.

    IF the above ends up being the case, sure, phase out classes and I'll be ok since I won't actually lose any levels. (Since 1 Class level = 1 Job level).

    But IF the classes still remain useful even with the implementation of jobs, then by all means, keep them.
    How about you can't enter to fight hard mode ifrit without jobs? or do dungeon that = 8 players? that mean even if PUG is better DD in the eyes of the players it does not matter and it should really be like that can't enter without a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I d prefer to play and watch. It seem like rush atm, but that doesnt mean there wont be new skill at the future. Instead of woop wipe everything, SE can take a small step and fix the class system.

    note: imo, w/e your point about class and job system it is to early to say anything about them before 1.21, because we basically dont know much about 1.20 and the skills at 1.21. So this thread is pointless
    The forums are about talking about anything that is about FFXIV even things that wont be added for over 1year so the thread is not pointless.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    How about you can't enter to fight hard mode ifrit without jobs? or do dungeon that = 8 players? that mean even if PUG is better DD in the eyes of the players it does not matter and it should really be like that can't enter without a job.
    hmm even tho it would be best for players to use jobs in these instances, i think it should be left up to the players and party leader on what they want in their party.

    Cause what if we cant find another DD? and there is a Gladiator seeking? it would be pointless to have 2 paladins, we can invite the second Gladiator and have him equip all the DD skills while the other Gla can be the paladin.

    Even if there is 2 Cons seeking, and we need a caster? one con can be a Whm, while other can equip Fire, Ice, and such..

    I think it should be left open to keep versatility while making parties.
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  4. #14
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    100% agree with you.

    A little worried about combos though, really don't want massive XYZ popping up on screen etc, I think that kind of stuff should be left to sp games.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    The forums are about talking about anything that is about FFXIV even things that wont be added for over 1year so the thread is not pointless.
    From what I understand, the OP ask for new class skill along side with the upcoming 1.20 and 1.21. SE planning to fix those step by step as first they ll fix the class identity, and the current skill setup /class can use from other class at 1.20, with 1.21 there ll be new skill for job and later there for sure will have skill fix for class as well or skill replace so it fit with the new system. So my point is if SE have already plan fix them step by step instead of fix them all at once why bother to ask them to fix all at once ? it is better to see them fix step by step so it can show some ppl that they are actually working their ass on fix thing instead of give a huge update and encounter a lot of thread : Q.Q they dont fix crap, the game fail, bla bla bla

    ninja edit: from my point of view , class fix = everything about class will be fix let it be name, skill or w/e , so I dont ask for more either ask any further

    ninja edit 2: I am out of here as this is my last post. Either ppl dont read all the text I wrote or my engrish suck so much that ppl dont understand at all. Yes my language is engrish
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 11-18-2011 at 10:06 PM.

  6. #16
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    Why don't they actually release the info we are seeking. It's long overdue
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Why don't they actually release the info we are seeking. It's long overdue
    Literally two minutes before it was posted. XD
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDace0 View Post
    Literally two minutes before it was posted. XD
    Lol I got that magic touch!
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    I have no clue what OP is talking about, it looks awesome.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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