DPS is the job of DPS.

[hynaku]

Really tired of being in parties where healer only focus is dps and not keeping the party healed. Also keep seeing healer letting the tank die because of not healing and not healing the dps. What's very bad had paladin tank healing himself and dps because healers wasn't. Healers keep seeing not healing is white mage's. Other 2 see healing more than white mage's.

[Zeonsilt]

Really tired of being in parties where healer only focus is dps and not keeping the party healed. Also keep seeing healer letting the tank die because of not healing and not healing the dps. What's very bad had paladin tank healing himself and dps because healers wasn't.

That was, basically, a Scholar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWPQDx4gfrc (Spoilers warning)

Blame all of them for not healing.

[Ilan]

Really tired of being in parties where healer only focus is dps and not keeping the party healed. Also keep seeing healer letting the tank die because of not healing and not healing the dps. What's very bad had paladin tank healing himself and dps because healers wasn't. Healers keep seeing not healing is white mage's. Other 2 see healing more than white mage's.

And you know what? I see even more tanks who don't use their cooldowns properly or run away when a SCH uses the skill that binds the fairy to a person, i think it is Aetherpact, and die because of that. And i hate to say that especially a WHM doesn't have to heal 24/7 if the tank isn't the worst of his kind. Regen, Assylum and maybe Medica 2 and you can dps for days if the tank drops too low you have to OGCD's to heal him up without issues. But like i said that only works if your tank isn't more like a trashcan than an tank and the healer doesn't even have to be good to do that.

Oh and PLD healing himself is nothing new either. Some of that species tend to do that all the time if they feel you let them drop to low because they don't trust you at all...i tend to stop healing them too when i'm on healer because there is no need for me to waste time on heals if he prefers to heal himself.

You also don't have to keep up the dps to full health all the time. If i know a fight they can run around with half hp because i know if there is groupwide dmg incomming or not. People don't have to be on 100% hp.

Yes i know that there are a lot of crap healers out there but there are also a lot of bad tanks and waaay more bad dps players out there. Maybe you shouldn't throw every dpsing healer into your hate pot of "healers are not allowed to dps".

[kikix12]

Oh and PLD healing himself is nothing new either. Some of that species tend to do that all the time if they feel you let them drop to low because they don't trust you at all...i tend to stop healing them too when i'm on healer because there is no need for me to waste time on heals if he prefers to heal himself.

Paladins don't prefer to heal themselves. However, they prefer to survive, no matter the reason. It's just another survival skill, not that different from the cooldowns. Except spammable but at the cost of being MP intensive and on global cooldown.

If a paladin uses their heal when their HP is getting quite low, consider it a boon. It just means that you have that bit of opportunity more to finish that cast of Holy or whatever.

Don't want paladins to heal?! Go with a fixed party, or at least with a tank that you know. However, in a random party, it is frequent enough for healers to either be too late with heals for whatever reason (like, them not sticking to the tank when he's pulling multiple groups, because apparently using sprint is too hard, or them not wanting to stop their cast of damaging spell to heal). It is better from the tanks standpoint to heal themselves and give the healers that bit of extra time, than wipe if they won't manage to get "in their game".

Though, yes, some paladins go too far healing themselves before they even reach half life. Then again, there are healers that heavily overheal. I guess those are the same types of players.

[Ilan]

Paladins don't prefer to heal themselves. However, they prefer to survive, no matter the reason. It's just another survival skill, not that different from the cooldowns. Except spammable but at the cost of being MP intensive and on global cooldown.

If a paladin uses their heal when their HP is getting quite low, consider it a boon. It just means that you have that bit of opportunity more to finish that cast of Holy or whatever.

Don't want paladins to heal?! Go with a fixed party, or at least with a tank that you know. However, in a random party, it is frequent enough for healers to either be too late with heals for whatever reason (like, them not sticking to the tank when he's pulling multiple groups, because apparently using sprint is too hard, or them not wanting to stop their cast of damaging spell to heal). It is better from the tanks standpoint to heal themselves and give the healers that bit of extra time, than wipe if they won't manage to get "in their game".

Though, yes, some paladins go too far healing themselves before they even reach half life. Then again, there are healers that heavily overheal. I guess those are the same types of players.

I never said the PLD is good when he heals himself and like i said i'll stop healing him if he heals himself all the time. But thanks for trying to explain me how things in random partys go and especially that you tell me to go with a fixed party, its very helpfull.

I hope i don't have to paint a sarcasm sign for you...

[Deceptus]

Really tired of being in parties where healer only focus is dps and not keeping the party healed. .

The healers job is keeping alive, not at 100% HP at all times. That's just overkill

[Powercow]

The healers job is keeping alive, not at 100% HP at all times. That's just overkill

B-but if I'm not at 100%, I might *die* the next time I stand in some ridiculously easy to avoid aoe for no reason! That's just not faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaair!

[akaneakki]

Really tired of being in parties where healer only focus is dps and not keeping the party healed. Also keep seeing healer letting the tank die because of not healing and not healing the dps. What's very bad had paladin tank healing himself and dps because healers wasn't. Healers keep seeing not healing is white mage's. Other 2 see healing more than white mage's.

Tired of AST not using earthly stars just like the one I had in o1s with a ast. Tired of whms using medica 2 when there is no healign required going on or aoe. Tired of whm spamming cure 3 when nobody is stacked. Tired of auto pilote schs on pets. I have a bigger list if you want it.

[Enla]

Tired of AST not using earthly stars just like the one I had in o1s with a ast. Tired of whms using medica 2 when there is no healign required going on or aoe. Tired of whm spamming cure 3 when nobody is stacked. Tired of auto pilote schs on pets. I have a bigger list if you want it.

I actually had one of those WHM's not too long ago when I got Thordan NM for my Trial Roulette... I had already topped off the party with my own Medica 2 because it's all that's really needed given the pitiful damage in that fight, but without fail they'd constantly be casting their own version or a regular Medica when the party was already at full health. Not a single bit of DPS was coming out either, so they might as well have just stood there the entire time given how much of a non-entity they were in the fight.

[Rilifane]

I actually had one of those WHM's not too long ago when I got Thordan NM for my Trial Roulette... I had already topped off the party with my own Medica 2 because it's all that's really needed given the pitiful damage in that fight, but without fail they'd constantly be casting their own version or a regular Medica when the party was already at full health. Not a single bit of DPS was coming out either, so they might as well have just stood there the entire time given how much of a non-entity they were in the fight.

Same just now.
Especially sad when they are 70 and wearing mentor crown. Players who are new to WHM will adapt that behavior because if a mentor does it, it has to be right, right?