Either SMN and RDM should lose their Raise or BLM should get a Raise.

[Shouko]

Removing it from RDM and SMN is the best solution. It's a poor inconsistency which causes an eternal unbalance between BLM and SMN/RDM. There are no healers that prefer BLM over SMN/RDM. No raid groups want a BLM over a RDM, even with the massive DPS difference. The SMN/RDM raise is such a big factor in MP and swiftcast conservation in raiding, it can't be ignored in the balancing. It should simply be removed to be in line of the cross-role balancing that happened in 4.0. Sure it puts more pressure on the healers, maybe make the healer raise not as punishing in either MP cost or cast time. But removing the SMN/RDM raise would instantly balance the caster meta.

Even if BLM had the DPS it should've had, it's still unbalanced. Removing it from SMN/RDM still doesn't remove anything special, as both of them have it.

SE really need to grow some balls and nerf jobs, instead of this constant flow of buffs which only causes further unbalance.

Raise is useful to a RDM in a dungeon because if the healer goes down they can raise the healer and spot heal the tank and party while doing so.
Same goes for SMN, albeit with shittier heals.

People need to get off this meta crap, this I need more dps to be relevant crap, and just focus on working around the con's of a class/job. SE should be balancing the stats and skills around what's fun and most useful overall not this min/max bs for raiding and pvp. When you focus too much on raiding and pvp in a game for balance it leaves everything else unbalanced.

These type of threads are what piss me off the most, it's like people fail to see whats fun anymore and just want to number crunch everything. Oh that guy he does 1% dps than me, I better bitch about it on the forums until it gets nerfed and mine job/class gets a buff!

[Dyvid]

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You don't seem to understand the issue then. We aren't talk about running a dungeons, in fact on your point everyone should have raise for just in case. RDM and too less or greater extent SMN. are prized in the end game content because of raise and the ability to not have to swipe. This has nothing to do with DPS but rather how unbalanced a strong utility can be. It's too the point where one job is completely passed over when it comes to raids. I don't even do raids but can tell when something isn't right. It's not fun for people who enjoy playing a certain job to suddenly have to switch to something else because _____ job has been shunned by the community.

[Cynfael]

Raise is useful to a RDM in a dungeon because if the healer goes down they can raise the healer and spot heal the tank and party while doing so.

True as far as it goes, but considering this game’s general lack of consequence for dying, RDM’s ability to help salvage lag, first-time, and derp deaths in low difficulty content is not much of bright spot.

In any case, I don’t see any need to remove resurrection spells from either SMN or RDM or to give rez to BLM. BLM and RDM both need help in overall damage (and the gap is quite a bit wider than 1%), and BLM’s main problem would not be addressed adequately by making it into another rez dispenser.

[zuzu-bq]

In any case, I don’t see any need to remove resurrection spells from either SMN or RDM or to give rez to BLM. BLM and RDM both need help in overall damage (and the gap is quite a bit wider than 1%), and BLM’s main problem would not be addressed adequately by making it into another rez dispenser.

Shhh. Careful, people don't like when truth is spoken around here.