So are we *ever* getting the planned list of Class/Ability changes?

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I think the problem with this whole situation is Yoshida saying he doesn't want to post info on anything unless he's absolutely sure, yet people complained about Tanaka posting info and things always end up being different or we got "lied to."

Well damn, I wish he made use of that philosophy when he mentioned posting the class change lists when 1.19 goes live.

Or when he said it would take them one more week to get the information prepared, which then translated to one week + 4 days of the second week (Nov. 11th), except we only got half of the information (which he didn't even mention during his earlier speech). Oh, and the information didn't even include the class change list, the list that we were promised was coming. Instead we got some general changes topic that, while nice, is not the class change list.

I think the problem with this whole situation is that your argument is as solid as the ice you're standing on. Trying to spin every criticism into some "oh, there is an issue I agree, but it's because of *insert some noble intention here* that the issue even exists" doesn't always work.