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  1. #51
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Just wow. So even though the vast majority of players don't even use these forums, since a small handful of Balmung players are harping on opening the servers, they represent ALL OF US because we don't shout them back down. That's some twisted thinking right there. There has been plenty of opposition to these outbursts from folks on the server, more than the actual whiners but you want to lump us all in because we're on the same server.

    And SE knows very well the population problems, that's why they haven't opened it. You think Gilgamesh's threads got it unlocked? You're sorely mistaken
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  2. #52
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Leviathan
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    Semi-real answer: Hey, I'm all for keeping Balmung on lockdown if it means keeping the filthy Moonguard ERPers in one area so that I can avoid it like the plague.

    Real answer, though: I can understand people wanting to play on the same server with friends. I get that sentiment, but I don't really care either way.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  3. #53
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    The server is populated and active, sure, but it's not really thriving. It's kind of quarantined without much life. It's really, really hard to recruit for FCs.
    It has thousands more people than Leviathan(2nd highest population) and is literally the most populated server in all of FFXIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
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    It's not twisted. The devs read what people type on here. The size of the group doesn't matter. Raiders are a tiny group and look, we have Ultimate now. People asked for very specific SMN changes and we got exactly what we asked for in 4.1.

    With enough whining from multiple players they very much can think the change should be made. Just like how Balmung was locked in the first place.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 11-24-2017 at 05:05 AM.

  4. #54
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    But... I want to transfer back. Every server I have played on since leaving has been incredibly anti-social in comparison.
    That said, it makes sense to keep it locked.
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  5. #55
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    Real answer, though: I can understand people wanting to play on the same server with friends. I get that sentiment, but I don't really care either way.
    The server could stay locked forever at this point. The only bot/cheaters are the paying kind SE doesn't punish. It would have been great if they said they were adding a new layer to recruit a friend that allows you to bypass all server locks. But lots of stuff gets half baked implementation.
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  6. #56
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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    With enough whining from multiple players they very much can think the change should be made. Just like how Balmung was locked in the first place.
    Player discontent was not the reason it was locked in the first place. You're acting like Gilgamesh was unlocked recently because of the sudden influx of threads at the same time as Balmung's. It was opened because their population eventually lowered to acceptable parameters. And yes judging the majority of a group based off the loud actions of a subset of that group is twisted. We're average players just like you folk on Zalera
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  7. #57
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    TaranTatsuuchi's Avatar
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    I'm on Balmung,and I personally tend to just avoid discussing the locking/unlocking of servers.

    Too much drama.
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  8. #58
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

  9. #59
    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Malina Loma
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
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    I've never said anything negative about all players of Balmung. Especially you. Never threw out insults or called any kinds of names so please calm down. I was simply saying that from feedback -> reading it point of view that they can represent you(general "you") the grounds of being in your server and asking to unlock many times.

    I feel, that Balmung, Gilgamesh and others like it were locked due to player feedback. Or else they could've locked it earlier if it was truly based on data. So yeah I do believe the unlock for Gilgamesh was inspired by the feedback from players. Not only was there feedback, but they probably had data to show it's true. And not only that, the one particular post got many likes.

    Which I think the devs look at when taking feedback seriously...

    Edit: I found it
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...lock-Gilgamesh.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 11-24-2017 at 01:39 PM.

  10. #60
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    Cammy Tiala
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    How do we say we want the server opened without being told we're whining or whatever other sorts of diminutive insults that we're being given. If we say "I'd really like Balmung to open again, please" it gets overlooked and people who don't even play on Balmung step in and say uninformed things.
    For me personally it's not so much the arguments being made as it is the dramatic and florid language being used in some of these petitions. Seeing things like "dying" or how there's a bleeding hole in the community just feels... I don't know, melodramatic? Which makes it hard to take it seriously. Which gets annoying when you see it a few times a day regardless of how well constructed the post is.

    Argument wise, is it that surprising people are irritated by the suggestion that Balmung is dying when there's still more active players on there than servers that survived years with no people? You may feel that it's dying because it's different from before and I don't think anyone will deny that as an insider that probably doesn't feel good. but you have to appreciate that to people not from a high pop mega-server it can seem to be an entitled claim and as people who have been affected by Balmung's status in the community before, their opinion is as valid as those of current residents.

    If all these Balmung petitions were confined to a singular thread it would probably smooth some of the tensions between sides. The sheer volume of them is ridiculous when most of the arguments have already been made previously.
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    Last edited by CaTi; 11-24-2017 at 06:13 PM. Reason: Word cap

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