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    Griffey's Avatar
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    Alpha Bongo
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 70

    An issue wherein issuing the Engage order would reset squadron members' cooldown time

    ...this wasnt intentional?

    Whelp, squadrons was cool while it lasted.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Of course it wasn't intended, it was clearly an exploit. That didn't stop people from abusing it though, sadly.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Of course it wasn't intended, it was clearly an exploit. That didn't stop people from abusing it though, sadly.
    The problem is people had to resort to this because the AI is terrible. Jobs weren't using their skills. Arcanist is pretty useless.

    So they fixed the Engage exploit but left the bad AI in place.
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The problem is people had to resort to this because the AI is terrible. Jobs weren't using their skills. Arcanist is pretty useless.

    So they fixed the Engage exploit but left the bad AI in place.
    I've never used the engage spam yet have almost no problems running the dungeons with the squad. The AI seems pretty damn intuitive to me, with tanks running to pick up any mobs I accidentally get enmity on & turning them away from the group for tank busters etc. Definitely more intelligent than a lot of players in my experience.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    I've never used the engage spam yet have almost no problems running the dungeons with the squad. The AI seems pretty damn intuitive to me, with tanks running to pick up any mobs I accidentally get enmity on & turning them away from the group for tank busters etc. Definitely more intelligent than a lot of players in my experience.
    Run a single Wanderer's Palace and fight the last boss. You'll see the terrible AI in full effect.
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    The problem is people had to resort to this because the AI is terrible. Jobs weren't using their skills. Arcanist is pretty useless.

    So they fixed the Engage exploit but left the bad AI in place.
    Lol people resorted to Engage spamming to melt the bosses faster in a manner not meant to be done, it was a way to power lvl your characters without doing any effort and people on Reddit kept going "no they didn't fix it last patch and people have been saying this for a while"

    It clearly was an exploit nothing more.
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Run a single Wanderer's Palace and fight the last boss. You'll see the terrible AI in full effect.
    Why would you run Wanderer's Palace in the first place? It has the lowest Tomestone yield of all dungeons ever, and you get better experience from Stone Vigil.
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    Lunali Brighteyes
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekimmak View Post
    Why would you run Wanderer's Palace in the first place? It has the lowest Tomestone yield of all dungeons ever, and you get better experience from Stone Vigil.
    Well, to be fair, it does have a higher tomestone yield than Stone Vigil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shouko View Post
    Lol people resorted to Engage spamming to melt the bosses faster in a manner not meant to be done, it was a way to power lvl your characters

    It clearly was an exploit nothing more.
    And it was figured out because people did WP and the squad would go nuts on the adds who couldn't be killed. So they spammed Engage to keep them on the boss. Then one person with an archer realized Archers would spam barrage when that happened.

    It's not like players magically knew instinctively that spamming Engage would allow one class to be OP. It didn't work with any other job other than archer.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And it was figured out because people did WP and the squad would go nuts on the adds who couldn't be killed. So they spammed Engage to keep them on the boss. Then one person with an archer realized Archers would spam barrage when that happened.

    It's not like players magically knew instinctively that spamming Engage would allow one class to be OP. It didn't work with any other job other than archer.
    That's literally why I kept pressing it. Keep my squad on the target I wanted them on not some add that can be blatantly ignored.
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