DPS is the job of DPS.

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I do agree that PF is meant remove the variables that come with DF, though I do think as players we should go simply with the vote option a means of showing the consensus of the group. I get what you are saying, I simply wish tank and healers that prefer things a certain way spoke up at the start instead keeping to themselves, if tank and healers that prefer slower runs mention it at the start I do think most people would be understanding, and if they are not the player that made the request should not hold the group hostage and force the group to kick them, they simply should live on their on accord or adapt to the situation if it is solely a play style issue and not gear one.

Though I do not agree with trying see what the consensus is on either side of spectrum by forcing a situation that may lead to a kick. I know it is a silly notion, but I simply do not understand why people on either side try to force their preferred play style in a random situation leaving the only recourse forced removal from the group.

On the whole I do agree with your point, the collective get to decide the pace. I simply wish people would not try to test the waters and letting the vote kick option be the deciding factor.

I have never used the vote kick option before do you have to be the party leader to initiate or can anyone do it? Either way it sucks putting players be it one person or the whole group through a negative experience simply to allow the vote kick option to the deciding factor. Wish more people would be vocal and speak up at the start.

This morning I joined a group asked if the group was okay with smaller pulls, since my gear is pretty booboo. They said nah, so I just left and told them to have a nice day. I was not going to try and force smaller pulls or run the risk of them trying to force larger pulls on me. That is how these situations should be handled not by testing the waters and seeing which wins out the vote kick or people simply being indifferent and just going with the vote even though they would prefer a different type of run.

I just do not agree with the whole you do not like then kick me mindset, may has misunderstood your point, but that is what I got. Be it for either side of the spectrum when it comes to fast or slow runs, seems selfish to a degree in my eyes. If that is not what you meant then please disregard the whole post.