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    I never liked pet wyverns...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    Doesn't fit in the lore. In this game, Dragoons are chocobo-riding, and kills anything with scales, 2 wings and more than 2 feet.
    I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm tired but I really couldn't understand that at all. Dragoons are chocobo-riding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    I never liked pet wyverns...
    I asked nicely to avoid making pointless posts. Would you be able to elaborate about why you wouldn't want the option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReapKarmah View Post
    I'm sorry, maybe it's because I'm tired but I really couldn't understand that at all. Dragoons are chocobo-riding?
    I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

    Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

    Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.
    Brought this point up in another thread, Dragoon is not the the jobs true name. It was originally called Dragon Knight, it is still named as such in Japan. The Dragoon name was used outside of Japan because of localization issues. Any actual real historical fact behind the Dragoon name, does not apply for the back story of Dragon Knight. SE has never changed the lore behind Dragon Knight ,be it old or new games in the Final fantasy series.
    Yes Ishgard is at war with dragons, and they have mounted calvary dragoons (which are what real dragoons are); But has anyone stop to think about the one outstanding fact? that these guys are not SE's Dragon Knight,that they are just simple military men. Heck SE even tried to bring the Dragon Knight job name to countries outside of Japan as the games progressed. Freya Crescent is an example of this attempt her designation in Final Fantasy 9 is Dragon Knight, but I guess people where to used to the Dragoon name so SE left it alone.
    Don't get get me wrong I don't care one way or the other about the wyvern. I just hate how the Dragoon(Dragon Knight) lore is getting ripped apart, and whole parts of it ignored in these threads just to twist it to fit their arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    I really don't remember about Dragoon specifically, but, in terms of lore, Ishgard is on an active war against Dragonkin, their knights use chocobos to go to war. I will accept the lore can be arrange in some ways, but going from blatantly open war against Dragons to have them as pets? I don't know.

    Lastly, in terms of development costs and resources, which I will not claim to know much about, but definitely sounds like balancing two classes for the cost of one, creating and adding new WS's, maybe creating two sets of armour and weapons for Dragoons with wyvern out or not, etc.

    Pets? Could be more like slaves, it wouldn't be the first time in fantasy that man uses Dragon to kill other Dragons. Look at the lore in Game of Thrones or the new game Skyrim (you kill Dragons but are able to call a Dragon to aid you...eventually in the story, once you get powerful enough)

    Just saying, but that being said I don't a Wyvern, this run, they have a nice balance of Pet to no pet through out the series and I like it when then flip flop between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Pets? Could be more like slaves, it wouldn't be the first time in fantasy that man uses Dragon to kill other Dragons. Look at the lore in Game of Thrones or the new game Skyrim (you kill Dragons but are able to call a Dragon to aid you...eventually in the story, once you get powerful enough)

    Just saying, but that being said I don't a Wyvern, this run, they have a nice balance of Pet to no pet through out the series and I like it when then flip flop between the two.
    A very reasonable and valid opinion. I feel, however, that flip-flopping between having/not a pet in this release of Final Fantasy doesn't exactly translate as a good enough reason to make the final decision in the end. Not alone at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebannen View Post
    I am gonna pose an idea here. Make a choice where you can do the story quest to obtain the job, and at the end you get the opurtunity to chose your allegiance. Either the dragoons of ishgard, or the wyverns of eorzea. This choice will affect your skills and if you have a pet or not. What do you guys think?
    I personally love the idea of questing to obtain a pet Wyvern. This would enable us to have a larger back-story about how you two met and on what terms. Theoretically you wouldn't even lose the option to dismiss your Wyvern when needed so I'm all for it!

    I would imagine that these ideas we have take time and money to implement into the game; but then again what idea is doesn't. So that shouldn't be an issue. I wonder what input a developer would have on this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReapKarmah View Post
    I asked nicely to avoid making pointless posts. Would you be able to elaborate about why you wouldn't want the option?
    I dislike these fads people cling on to. A pet wyvern? Why? Why are we dealing with pets at all? Aesthetics seems to be the only thing this community cares about.

    My reasons are entwined with previous Final Fantasy titles. A dragoon to me is a knight with a spear that has long range and can jump. A little pet wyvern does not fit with the vision I have of them.

    It is personal opinion of course. You like them, I don't.
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