Petition to Lift Balmung Server Lock / Impact of Server Lock on FFXIV RP Community

[MistakeNot]

I mean no offense, but you likely have no foundation, experience, or understanding of the RP community. RP does not "flourish" on other servers when its participants are limited to a handful of sparsely populated link shells that throw a RP event once in a blue moon. If you've never been a part of a centralized RP community, it might be difficult to understand the importance of having a centralized hub. The reason that RP tends to gravitate to a centralized location is that RP requires such a thing to exist in the first place. Without having access to a community, participation in community activities is substantially more difficult.

Y'know, I transferred my main RP character away from Balmung to Omega when it opened. I am getting more RP there than I did on Balmung - while there are fewer RP events on Omega they are all during times suitable for my timezone, unlike Balmung where 95% of the events happened in the middle of the night for me.

RP does not require A central hub. It does require a certain critical mass of people to really be viable and sustainable, but the RP community in FFXIV is large enough to sustain more than one RP server.

[Clover_Blake]

I am getting more RP there than I did on Balmung - while there are fewer RP events on Omega they are all during times suitable for my timezone, unlike Balmung where 95% of the events happened in the middle of the night for me.

RP does not require A central hub. It does require a certain critical mass of people to really be viable and sustainable, but the RP community in FFXIV is large enough to sustain more than one RP server.

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it? But the people who are affected have all the right to tend to their own needs and to ask for things that will suit them, whether or not these things are convenient for you (or even your business to start with).

For the record, I'm from Balmung, but with me being from the EU and Balmung's constant restrictions, I don't RP with the community and I eventually lost every will to find a suitable FC or even socialize in general. This means that right now I don't really care if Balmung is open or closed, as it doesn't affect me anymore. I'm not defending OP because it suits me, but because OP has this problem which is ruining their gaming experience, and they have all the right to complain about it for as long as this problem continues. If it doesn't even affect you, then you have no business telling OP to not talk about their problem. Sorry about my bad English; just my two cents.

[Keridwyn]

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress?

Because my server and several others share the Aether data center with the behemoth that is Balmung and there is at least one prior reported instance of Balmung crashing so hard it took the entire data center with it. If it was just you guys all alone out there on your own data center I wouldn't care but when there's a very real chance that your giant metropolis will explode and take my tiny suburb with it that's not right either is it? That's why so many of us say no every time this is brought up.

Also OP, how might we go about getting numbers you wouldn't consider 'tainted' by SE? You're predisposed to dismiss out of hand any argument using numbers generated by them but as they run the server equipment they're the only people in any position able to provide us with actual data. Do you have a suggestion on how to obtain data via another source and if so why are you not confronting them with the actual numbers? Otherwise all you have is hearsay and conjecture based on your limited observations. Or did you manage to line everyone on your server up in a conga line and count them? If so, color me impressed.

[MistakeNot]

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

Yes, of course that is why I find more RP there, and why I transferred there in the first place.
Omega (and Mateus) would not have been chosen as additional (unofficial) RP servers unless Balmung had been locked though - before that there was not enough interest in establishing additional RP hubs.

[Alien_Gamer]

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it?

SE stated why Balmung was being closed and what it would take to reopen when they closed it. In general, those who are asking for it are taking the view point of they don't care/don't believe SE and just want it reopened anyway regardless of any ill effects it would have. They also tend to drive their statements with hyperbole like "Balmung is dead/dying"...when its not. Its changing and shrinking but not dying, there is a large difference there.

The OP in this thread is so over the top illogical and closed off to any other view beyond his own that this thread itself is almost comical in nature. That and this is the 3rd thread about it for Balmung in a couple days on top of the several Gilgamesh had going that people are just tired of seeing new threads about it; nothing has changed, nothing has been updated, if someone really needs to comment on the situation they should discuss it in an existing thread.

Its a simple problem with a simple solution but the OP and others asking for Balmung to be reopened just don't seem to get it.

[kikix12]

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it?

If a kids pet dies, it dies. No matter how much he comes crying to his parents that he wants them to revive his Poochie, Poochie cannot be revived. All they can do is buy him a new pet to replace Poochie, but he doesn't want to. So whenever they are out, he screams at the top of his lungs that he wants Poochie back and that they are horrible because they don't want to bring it up. And he decided that there is no proof that Poochie cannot be revived and that they are just lying.

As a bystander, even though I'm not the one directly affected by it, after some point if I came across that kid and his parents often enough I'd get pissed. Not because the kid got a problem that, to him, is huge, but because he cannot understand the fact of the matter being impossible.


Balmung is locked due to server limitations. It is IMPOSSIBLE to solve, except by completely scrapping the server, transfer data from it to a much "fiercer beast" and run that up. But not only are there inherent technological limitations to that, it also costs a WHOLE lot. At the point that we're talking about, 10% increase in performance can increase the cost by 50% or more. Way more. It is far more efficient to just buy multiple other servers to share the burden.

As such, it's not that the original poster have a problem. It's about him being part of the problem. He may not mean it and no one told him that...but that doesn't change the fact.

[Skivvy]

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it? But the people who are affected have all the right to tend to their own needs and to ask for things that will suit them, whether or not these things are convenient for you (or even your business to start with).

For the record, I'm from Balmung, but with me being from the EU and Balmung's constant restrictions, I don't RP with the community and I eventually lost every will to find a suitable FC or even socialize in general. This means that right now I don't really care if Balmung is open or closed, as it doesn't affect me anymore. I'm not defending OP because it suits me, but because OP has this problem which is ruining their gaming experience, and they have all the right to complain about it for as long as this problem continues. If it doesn't even affect you, then you have no business telling OP to not talk about their problem. Sorry about my bad English; just my two cents.

I don't think the issue in this thread is the idea of opening Balmung back up again, but the OP and his approach to the topic. I imagine most people are OK with the idea of Balmung being opened up, but when SE feels the server is at a stable level.

OP came charging in here, claiming to know for a fact that SE is wrong about the server not being ready, and has insulted anyone who doesn't agree. If you are trying to garner support for a particular concern, tossing out insults left and right, and refusing to converse in a normal manner is just going to push people away, and quite possibly make them work against your cause just to spite you.

I personally would like to see Balmung opened back up, but I also understand that with MMOs, sometimes a server lock has to happen. This is not the first time I've been part of a lock in a game. SE will open up the server when they feel it is ready to be opened. Somehow this opinion of mine got me titled a "mindless child who need to be told what to think by a benevolent authority figure" and other interesting things.

OP is arguing for a server unlocked based on the idea that he 100% knows better than SE, and that just isn't true. Why would a company knowingly lock-down a server, which is only bound to annoy and frustrate people, and quite possibly push some away from the game if it was not necessary?

Also, despite what OP claims - Queues do still happen. They're not huge, but they're there.