Petition to Lift Balmung Server Lock / Impact of Server Lock on FFXIV RP Community

[Sylvina]

Keeping more people off balmung has made RP flourish on other servers.

[Velthice]

Keeping more people off balmung has made RP flourish on other servers.

No you see that can't be true because he said so

[Sylvina]

No you see that can't be true because he said so

Absolutely ridiculous, theres a full linkshell of RPers on Coerl with regular events.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Absolutely ridiculous, theres a full linkshell of RPers on Coerl with regular events.

But thats a fallacious arguement, he's not going to resond to it ever, hes so done with that. He only wants meaningful (read: agrees with what he says) discussion.

[Oaken]

Keeping more people off balmung has made RP flourish on other servers.

I mean no offense, but you likely have no foundation, experience, or understanding of the RP community. RP does not "flourish" on other servers when its participants are limited to a handful of sparsely populated link shells that throw a RP event once in a blue moon. If you've never been a part of a centralized RP community, it might be difficult to understand the importance of having a centralized hub. The reason that RP tends to gravitate to a centralized location is that RP requires such a thing to exist in the first place. Without having access to a community, participation in community activities is substantially more difficult.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I mean no offense, but you likely have no foundation, experience, or understanding of the RP community. RP does not "flourish" on other servers when its participants are limited to a handful of sparsely populated link shells that throw a RP event once in a blue moon. If you've never been a part of a centralized RP community, it might be difficult to understand the importance of having a centralized hub. The reason that RP tends to gravitate to a centralized location is that RP requires such a thing to exist in the first place. Without having access to a community, participation in community activities is substantially more difficult.

If you can tell people they don't know what they've seen because they aren't experts or w/e, people can tell you the same thing. Cuz that is exactly what you are doing lol.

[MistakeNot]

I mean no offense, but you likely have no foundation, experience, or understanding of the RP community. RP does not "flourish" on other servers when its participants are limited to a handful of sparsely populated link shells that throw a RP event once in a blue moon. If you've never been a part of a centralized RP community, it might be difficult to understand the importance of having a centralized hub. The reason that RP tends to gravitate to a centralized location is that RP requires such a thing to exist in the first place. Without having access to a community, participation in community activities is substantially more difficult.

Y'know, I transferred my main RP character away from Balmung to Omega when it opened. I am getting more RP there than I did on Balmung - while there are fewer RP events on Omega they are all during times suitable for my timezone, unlike Balmung where 95% of the events happened in the middle of the night for me.

RP does not require A central hub. It does require a certain critical mass of people to really be viable and sustainable, but the RP community in FFXIV is large enough to sustain more than one RP server.

[Clover_Blake]

I am getting more RP there than I did on Balmung - while there are fewer RP events on Omega they are all during times suitable for my timezone, unlike Balmung where 95% of the events happened in the middle of the night for me.

RP does not require A central hub. It does require a certain critical mass of people to really be viable and sustainable, but the RP community in FFXIV is large enough to sustain more than one RP server.

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress? There's a lot of "oh gods not again" drama, simply because this is a matter that doesn't affect you at all, and thus you don't want to hear about it? But the people who are affected have all the right to tend to their own needs and to ask for things that will suit them, whether or not these things are convenient for you (or even your business to start with).

For the record, I'm from Balmung, but with me being from the EU and Balmung's constant restrictions, I don't RP with the community and I eventually lost every will to find a suitable FC or even socialize in general. This means that right now I don't really care if Balmung is open or closed, as it doesn't affect me anymore. I'm not defending OP because it suits me, but because OP has this problem which is ruining their gaming experience, and they have all the right to complain about it for as long as this problem continues. If it doesn't even affect you, then you have no business telling OP to not talk about their problem. Sorry about my bad English; just my two cents.

[Keridwyn]

In any case, to everyone else, why is it that people who want Balmung open are causing you such distress?

Because my server and several others share the Aether data center with the behemoth that is Balmung and there is at least one prior reported instance of Balmung crashing so hard it took the entire data center with it. If it was just you guys all alone out there on your own data center I wouldn't care but when there's a very real chance that your giant metropolis will explode and take my tiny suburb with it that's not right either is it? That's why so many of us say no every time this is brought up.

Also OP, how might we go about getting numbers you wouldn't consider 'tainted' by SE? You're predisposed to dismiss out of hand any argument using numbers generated by them but as they run the server equipment they're the only people in any position able to provide us with actual data. Do you have a suggestion on how to obtain data via another source and if so why are you not confronting them with the actual numbers? Otherwise all you have is hearsay and conjecture based on your limited observations. Or did you manage to line everyone on your server up in a conga line and count them? If so, color me impressed.

[MistakeNot]

You are getting more RP in an EU server because you are from EU (like myself), which doesn't mean that RP doesn't need a central hub. In fact, Omega has been chosen as the EU central hub, and I suspect that's why you might find enough RP there.

Yes, of course that is why I find more RP there, and why I transferred there in the first place.
Omega (and Mateus) would not have been chosen as additional (unofficial) RP servers unless Balmung had been locked though - before that there was not enough interest in establishing additional RP hubs.