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  1. #11
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    Oaken's Avatar
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    Suetonius Donatus
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    Why? Why another thread about this issue?
    Do you really believe SE will give in if you just cry enough?

    I've said this before and I'll say it again: Balmung will most likely re-open once SE is happy with the population on it. They've proven to do that with Gilgamesh but unfortunatly, Balmung hasnt reached their desired, healthy numbers yet. Once it does, it will most likely re-open. Since that depends on you, the people on the server (getting off the server), they obviously cant disclose a date when thats gonna happen.
    See response to fallacious argument 1. Unlike the three actual arguments outlined in the OP, circular logic and blind deference to seemingly arbitrary business decisions made by SE is not an argument.
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  2. #12
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    See responses to fallacious arguments 1 and 2.

    I'll add that many paying subscribers (like myself) realize that SE operates a business, and business decisions are often influenced by consumer demand. When consumers demand something, businesses often listen to those demands.

    That is the very function of a public forum like this: to apprise SE to subscriber requests.

    You keep saying stuff like fallacious arguements 1 and 2, yet isnt insanity the act of doing the same thing (asking for Balmung to open) over and over again with no changes?

    Balmung will open when it empties enough. There are servers with resources not in use due to lower populations. Move there, make RP communities, profit. I'm sure you don't know every single person, or RP'er on Balmung. If you think its stagnating, why not leave your FC, all your linkshells, and delete everyone on your friends list, and get new ones with people you haven't played with before? There, not stagnant anymore.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-23-2017 at 10:52 AM.

  3. #13
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    Suetonius Donatus
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Ah, the passive aggressive post. Except it failed in even being passive aggressive. Balmung doesn't need to be unlocked....Balmung players just need to stop whining about this.
    I respectfully disagree, and believe that players who do not play on Balmung, do not understand the detrimental impacts of the server ban has had on the community, and have little to no vested interest in the issue should simply reserve judgment (or not click the thread). But this, sadly, is the internet, and reason rarely governs action. ETERNAL SADNESS.
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  4. #14
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    Severa Tyrfing
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    Midgardsormr
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    No thanks.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    I respectfully disagree, and believe that players who do not play on Balmung, do not understand the detrimental impacts of the server ban has had on the community, and have little to no vested interest in the issue should simply reserve judgment (or not click the thread). But this, sadly, is the internet, and reason rarely governs action. ETERNAL SADNESS.
    The other NA servers outnumber Balmung...so what are these detrimental impact on the community? Because the rest of us are actually doing just fine on other servers. Or just wait, like the Gilgamesh players did.
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  6. #16
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    See responses to fallacious arguments 1 and 2.

    I'll add that many paying subscribers (like myself) realize that SE operates a business, and business decisions are often influenced by consumer demand. When consumers demand something, businesses often listen to those demands.

    That is the very function of a public forum like this: to apprise SE to subscriber requests.
    You're first argument is just you stamping your feet and saying "YOU CAN'T SAY THAT" and you're second argument is provably false since there are rpc's thriving on mateus and doing just fine on faerie. How very inconvenient for your argument.

    Also your balmung bucks aren't worth any more than the rest of the playerbase, so if the playerbase at large is benefiting from balmung being closed, and smaller servers now thriving is a sign that they are, then closed balmung shall remain until it falls in line population wise.
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  7. #17
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    Sylvina Eon
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    Exodus
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    Keeping more people off balmung has made RP flourish on other servers.
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  8. #18
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    I respectfully disagree, and believe that players who do not play on Balmung, do not understand the detrimental impacts of the server ban has had on the community, and have little to no vested interest in the issue should simply reserve judgment (or not click the thread). But this, sadly, is the internet, and reason rarely governs action. ETERNAL SADNESS.
    I was on Balmung from the moment it was born from Fabul and Besaid during 1.0 until 4.0's launch. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    I wish people who only started playing the game after the character creation locks went full swing would stop posting their opinions as fact as they are part of the problem to begin with. How many chars did you pay to transfer on to the server?
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 11-23-2017 at 10:59 AM.

  9. #19
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    Keeping more people off balmung has made RP flourish on other servers.
    No you see that can't be true because he said so
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  10. #20
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    Aliiza Duskryn
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    Jenova
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    Weaver Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Oaken View Post
    There. Is. No. Evidence. Of. Server. Instability. Related. To. Allegedly. Excessive. Population. Levels.

    As mentioned above, I will decline to address this circular line of argument any further.

    SE has not disclosed its decision making process or provided any meaningful information on the server lock. Until it does, there is no reasonable basis to conclude that the server should remain locked.
    So where's your evidence? I mean you must have something to back your claims up that contradict SE?
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