Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Rita1989]

Well, now I've seen everything. A Scholar who refuses to Protect.
Expert roulette, Skalla. Red, DPS. Green, Scholar.

And sure enough, even after asking in multiple ways, nope.
The 2 DPS were not hesitant to boot the Scholar as soon as possible.

I ran into 1 last week who justified it by saying because SE said in an interview once that the skill does not really serve a point that they didn't have to cast it.

Ironically in the time they wasted arguing with me about it they could have cast protect like 20 times.

[Enla]

I ran into 1 last week who justified it by saying because SE said in an interview once that the skill does not really serve a point that they didn't have to cast it.

Ironically in the time they wasted arguing with me about it they could have cast protect like 20 times.

I don't even understand why it's such a hassle either, the changes to Class Actions mean you can swap in and out skills fairly easily without much penalty. Just keep Protect on your bar, switch it on before you get into queue, cast it, then switch it off for another skill. It's really not hard.

[ReiyoKuchiki]

^^^ Needed to make this a img cuz i didnt know how to write all that in only 1000 characters.

Also: I actually got a cool run two weeks ago. I got the Aery and was with my sister as WHM, we got a couple. Since my sister and me have the same surname and both or dps too it was a funny situation. We chatted a lot and did the run without rush. Everyone got a commentation at the end. It was fun

[Javey]

Yeah there are some who find it fun to take aggro from tanks. Never understood why they choose to do it in PUGs where literally no one finds that amusing. Those that don't know better may be all " wtf tank keep aggro."

[Aosha]

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You can get past the character limit by editing your existing post. But your solution is great too :P

[Vidu]

I ran into 1 last week who justified it by saying because SE said in an interview once that the skill does not really serve a point that they didn't have to cast it.

Ironically in the time they wasted arguing with me about it they could have cast protect like 20 times.

To be honest: I dont get the fuss on either side. If I play as tank, the healer has 15 seconds to cast protect - if they dont want to, thats their problem. In the end they're the ones having to heal and deal with the slight damage increase of missing protect.
While I cast it myself when playing healer, I also know that I'm perfectly fine healing (and dpsing) without it.
I dont get healers who are so adamant about not casting it, but people/tanks refusing to go ahead without are just as bad - just shrug it off, they're making their own job harder, not yours.

[Rita1989]

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Sorry but if you ignore it your just validating their bad play I rather take the 5 minutes kick them and get another healer your just adding extra stress on to the entire party for no reason by refusing to cast it.

[Vidu]

Sorry but if you ignore it your just validating their bad play I rather take the 5 minutes kick them and get another healer your just adding extra stress on to the entire party for no reason by refusing to cast it.

Its not excatly "bad play" if they can handle it - but maybe I'm just to fed up with actual bad play to be petty other things like this.
Funny enough: They considered removing protect alltogether with SB but figured they leave it in because its such a traditional FF-skill that fans might be upset if they'd cut it - I can understand why you want a healer to cast it, but seriously: as long as they're doing fine without it, I cant be bothered to throw a fit about it. Much less waste my and everyone elses time to wait for a kick.

Funny enough this reminds me of a story before SB, when Cleric Stance was still good. So naturally it was my first cross class choice on scholar. I got thrown into Sastasha with a bunch of germans who I politely informed that I dont have protect at this level (changing would have meant cooldown-reset at that point) because I prefer helping DPS at that we'll be perfectly fine without it.
The warrior wasnt happy about that and started mass-pulling. In Sastasha NM. I dont remember the DPS we had, but do remember that we had basically no AoE. I had to spam heal him through 10+ mobs while he claimed he could have pulled even more with protect on (would have actually only be possible if protect would have spawned more mobs, since he grab everthing he could already) and made snarky remarks about how I didnt got to dps now (which I actually did anyways...). Run took longer than it would have with me dpsing, but we got through it without wipes.

Again: I'm all for casting protect, but being so upset about someone not casting it - as long as you dont wipe - seems like wasted energy and time to me.

[Aosha]

To be honest: I dont get the fuss on either side. If I play as tank, the healer has 15 seconds to cast protect - if they dont want to, thats their problem. In the end they're the ones having to heal and deal with the slight damage increase of missing protect.
While I cast it myself when playing healer, I also know that I'm perfectly fine healing (and dpsing) without it.
I dont get healers who are so adamant about not casting it, but people/tanks refusing to go ahead without are just as bad - just shrug it off, they're making their own job harder, not yours.

I wasn't honestly that bothered by it, just found it weird. We did the first few pulls up to the first boss, where the kick happened. I pressed no due to the "kick reason" being labeled as "cheating", which was not what was happening, but it passed anyways. What bothered me was the healer being so adamant about it, and not giving an explanation. And asking "you moving anytime", when I was doing the standard courteous thing of waiting for the healer to protect. I'd kinda expect some note of "I'm not using protect because reason XYZ, we can go as is" instead of "why are you not a mind reader?" Had the healer done that instead I'd have actually felt a bit bad about the kick going through. :/

[Seryne]

I need to try this.... >.>

I was tempted to do it myself with him but he decided to attack me. I just wanted to be /playdead buddies with him!