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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    We already have PvP why can't we expand on it. Again I am tired of having an instanced zone which all feast and frontlines are.
    That SE did it in FFXI is beside the point, this game is not FFXI. Its nice they did it there but that doesn't mean it could or should be done here, the same holds true for any other game. That any given map is dead doesn't change the fact that you want to remove it from PvE and make it into a PvP zone. Why not just ask for a new PvP map tailored to PvP instead of taking something away from PvE? If you dont want an instance mode then ask for a non-instanced mode for PvP.

    So which is your goal, to get new modes/maps for PvP or to force PvP into a PvE map?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    That SE did it in FFXI is beside the point, this game is not FFXI. Its nice they did it there but that doesn't mean it could or should be done here, the same holds true for any other game. That any given map is dead doesn't change the fact that you want to remove it from PvE and make it into a PvP zone. Why not just ask for a new PvP map tailored to PvP instead of taking something away from PvE? If you dont want an instance mode then ask for a non-instanced mode for PvP.

    So which is your goal, to get new modes/maps for PvP or to force PvP into a PvE map?
    You missed the point entirely. It was an example of how PvE and PvP could co-exist in a manner that doesn't promote ganking and can be done in an open world Zone.

    You don't have to take away from one to provide another aspect. Which is again the reason why I brought up FFXI. It was done in the past and can be done again.

    Should is subjective based upon the interpreter.

    The skill reduction from 3.0 - 4.0 is the most backwards thing SE could have done to enable co-existing of PvP in PvE environments.

    My objective? Why does it have to be one or the other?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    My objective? Why does it have to be one or the other?
    If you can have everything you want without changing a PvE map then the only reason to do so is to change a PvE map which runs counter to you stating you just want more options for PvP. Be honest with what you're asking for.

    From everything you've stated you've made it clear that you don't really want more options for PvP, you want to try and move PvP into the PvE areas of the game and convert PvE maps into PvP. Regardless of the fact that SE did create PVP in this game, it is primarily a PvE game and you're trying to force it to be a hybrid which is only going to anger other people. If you want a game that is primarily a PvP game then you should go play a PvP game instead of trying to change this into one.

    I know you like PvP and want to do it more but based on how few people play it, PvP is not something most people in this game do; I say this based off comments I see in the game and on the forums about how few people actually play and how long queue times can get because of it. And to be blunt, if it were more popular the devs would be devoting a lot more resources to it and releasing more content for it. As it stands, this is a PvE game.

    I've said it before, if you want more modes or maps I'm all for it, you should have more options to enjoy what you enjoy. But I draw the line at bringing PvP into PvE areas. There is no reason to ask for this except to push PvP into a PvE area.

    If you want more modes or maps for modes then start suggesting that and stop asking to convert a PvE map into PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    If you want more modes or maps for modes then start suggesting that and stop asking to convert a PvE map into PvP.
    I am asking for PvP content that is not instance based. People complained about Dev time, making an entire new zone would cause massively more dev time. New zone thinking the scale of Diadem, etc. Using an already existing map is just a thought to alleviate that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    Again, you're lacking a great deal of understanding and respect on how basic IT workflow occurs.
    I work with IT folks all the time, so I fully understand their workflow. If something becomes important enough they will find a way to make it happen. As has been already communicated there is a dedicated PvP team. So there is already dev time allocated to PvP which wouldn't necessarily take away from Job creation or anything else so you invalidated the rest of your post.
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