Open world PvP Zone

[Zeonsilt]

Workload on this project is going to deduct from something else -now or later. Speaking as a professional analyst - it is a question of additive value verses other potential or pending projects. When you are running a group at capacity with no plans for expansion, you are picking and choosing a lot more tightly.

Well, we already got a new PvP mode, it will be another 3 years before we'l get something new for PvP.
As people already said, PvP playerbase is a minority in FF XIV.
(Like what...0.5%? or less)

It's amazing that we got a new PvP mode in the first place.

[Wintersandman]

Speaking as a professional analyst - it is a question of additive value verses other potential or pending projects. When you are running a group at capacity with no plans for expansion, you are picking and choosing a lot more tightly.

I think the misconception is on your end my friend. People have been asking for Red Mage for years and they finally got it. They asked for Samurai for years and finally got it. You are basically stating that if you want something like a new job, new dungeon idea, etc etc... Lets think about what the dev team can do... yeah that doesn't make any sense. As a professional analyst you should also realize the most valuable thing anyone can give is their time. That is the only thing you can't give back. And with that being said since I am giving my time to this game I am going to demand the most out of it that I can. I love this game and there is no reason that I should do anything less.

[Hyrist]

I think the misconception is on your end my friend. People have been asking for Red Mage for years and they finally got it. They asked for Samurai for years and finally got it.

Logical fallacies above - Red Herring, Strawman.

New Jobs are part of the normal rotation of content being added in, as is New Frontline Zones/Content. You're talking creating an entirely new concept (to this team), not a new variety to already existing and anticipated content. They're categorically different - as time is already budgeted for new Jobs, and Samurai was already intended. Red Mage was massive popular demand by both crew and player, which was set up by a slip of the tongue in game dialogue - and there was a slot for a new job to fill.

Open World PvP is a completely different open world concept, Jobs are things already anticipated and budgeted for. Remember, zero sum game. It'd be very realistic (though highly unlikely) that the crew would have to sacrifice something like the creation of Jobs for an entire expansion cycle to have time for something as massive as implementing Open World.

Again, you're lacking a great deal of understanding and respect on how basic IT workflow occurs. Sorry, but from what I've seen of the development team's trends Open World PvP is just not feasible or popular enough for them to pull the allocated manpower out of pending and future projects - especially compared to open world PvE content which we're really not getting either. You have development trends (the base plan of the developers leeway for adaptation), popularity, and objectivity are against it.

Again, just advising you to curb your expectations here and perhaps adapt your suggestion to something like expanding front-lines to contain your favorite Open World PvP objectives.

[Kisagami]

Again, just advising you to curb your expectations here and perhaps adapt your suggestion to something like expanding front-lines to contain your favorite Open World PvP objectives.

I think they all are doing so. So far they gave come to an agreement for a flag for PVP toggle OR an instanced zome where it is a free for all PVP area. That’s really all they want. They could even make it an instance - like the grounds of shatter - that only ends when you decide to exit. It would be a very nice compromise, no PVE players will be threatened, and people will be able to have some semblence of the basic idea.

They all have been compromising and being reasonable this whole time - maybe quit crushing the dream? Things will only come about in this game if we are vocal about what we want out of it.

[Gravton]

Pretty sure yoshi-p said they have a dedicated pvp development team. I don't see how a dedicated pvp team takes away from anything pve related.

[Hyrist]

Cite source. Having a team does not mean dedicated. I work in multiple pools myself. Also working with does not garner the same understanding as working in, as I've been on both sides of the fence there.

As far as allocation of pvp development time, I've already addressed that there are a littiany of current issues pending as well as multiple reasons as to why crossing the line to open world play comes with severe innate flaws in the core mechanical structure that. I recommend you take the time to read, consider and address those instead of cherry picking the ones you think are good to argue - or misinterpret to your advantage. I'll address other points when time allows.

[Wintersandman]

I recommend you take the time to read, consider and address those instead of cherry picking the ones you think are good to argue - or misinterpret to your advantage. I'll address other points when time allows.

I don't see many flaws with merging the two. The biggest glaring one was the 4.0 skill consolidation which pushed any merge of the two further away. Potential hacks to attacking non flagged players they have figured out already. The same principle applies to attacking someones levequest target.

I will clarify further. I work IN an IT field and so I fully understand the workflow.

[Nightroad]

I would love a open world pvp MAP , like Lotro does it . But with three factions.
Lotro PVP has issues right now but i love the idea .

As to lore ? Come on , Flying tortoises and cross overs from other games (FF 13), so do not trow the lore argument around here.
They can write it in here easy enough.

[Wyvernheart]

I dont want this idea to die. It could really pump some life into the open world for choice players. I wish we could get a response from the dev team saying what they think. I just want this to be a thing so bad. That and the 'red fate'. Bring my dreams to life!

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Last I recall, they're not against the idea. They even mused about how a WHM using Assize during a hunt would effectively attack everyone else, but also noted that many aspects of the game as it currently is wouldn't work well with OWPvP. They did say however that they'd consider PvP servers if there was enough demand for it. . . Of course, you have players literally threatening unsubbing in fear of even that becoming a reality.