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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I really can't remember or cite where I heard this (if someone else has the link, please pass it on) but wasn't there some interview or something where it was stated that we don't have "cute" or excessively feminine males or male emotes/clothes is because it would make the devs uncomfortable to design/program them?
    If this were true, that would be very pathetic. Fragile masculinity at its finest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    If this were true, that would be very pathetic. Fragile masculinity at its finest.
    Japan has some deep-rooted issues and are slow on the progressive front. Many of the dev team and investors are likely of older generations, which have much more restrictive viewpoints regarding lots of things. Such things are still prevalent in the younger generations as well, though you can see certain views begin to expand. This is why males have yet to see more diverse, or effeminate, glamour like the male bunny outfit. The closest you'll get to any sort of feminine male character is the "pretty boy" archetype, which you see predominantly on Male Miqo'te. This is also likely why Female Au Ra ended up "frail" and petite, as that too is a very, VERY strong archetype, especially paired with the tall and strong Males.
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    Doesn't excuse them from criticism. That said, I'd like to see a source for that excuse before making any serious judgments about their character.
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    I think Au Ra females are the perfect height. If they were super tall they just wouldn't be as cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I think Au Ra females are the perfect height. If they were super tall they just wouldn't be as cute.
    I could go with a little bit more height(like the size of the head total added), but honestly, more hairstyles and more choices with facial features(horns being able to be put with any of the faces for example) would be optimal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    I really can't remember or cite where I heard this (if someone else has the link, please pass it on) but wasn't there some interview or something where it was stated that we don't have "cute" or excessively feminine males or male emotes/clothes is because it would make the devs uncomfortable to design/program them?
    I would really like someone to source this because my immediate reaction is just to give him the benefit of the doubt and say whoever said that clearly meant it as a joke or it was a bad translation. Of course, I may very well be wrong, but I can't imagine them being that out of touch.

    Again, fully willing to admit I could be wrong, but I dunno...just doesn't sound right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I think Au Ra females are the perfect height. If they were super tall they just wouldn't be as cute.
    What appears cute depends on the person (eye of the beholder?). As an example, I think Roegadyn males are incredibly adorable (though not as much as the Galka from FFXI). To you, a tall female Au Ra wouldn't be cute, but for others, they could be.

    Anyway, regarding longer hairstyles, I dunno if it can happen. Clipping issues aside, there's a high chance that a longer hairstyle will have it look incredibly stiff (like capes) and look awkward/bad on jobs that flip and spin around a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    I would really like someone to source this because my immediate reaction is just to give him the benefit of the doubt and say whoever said that clearly meant it as a joke or it was a bad translation. Of course, I may very well be wrong, but I can't imagine them being that out of touch.

    Again, fully willing to admit I could be wrong, but I dunno...just doesn't sound right.
    Its from a interview with Yoshida and they were talking about the bunny male outfit aswell. I will try and track that interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    we don't have "cute" or excessively feminine males or male emotes/clothes is because it would make the devs uncomfortable to design/program them?
    That seems shaky at best though since when many people in the gaming community at large think of FF they think "brooding scrawny pretty boy with a ridiculous weapon".

    It'd be nice to see something like one of the viera concepts

    as an option for those who wish to play as male avatars since it's more of mid-point between Lalas and Miqo'te. They really look like tweens though so I doubt it'd happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texa View Post
    It'd be nice to see something like one of the viera concepts

    as an option for those who wish to play as male avatars since it's more of mid-point between Lalas and Miqo'te.
    Agreed.
    /10chara
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