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  1. #171
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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yubelchen View Post
    You know what is truely strange? NOBODY from the staff acually answered here if i did check correctly, how does nobody give information why is it still locked and for how long more?
    What would be the point? When the servers were locked the devs said why they were locked and that they's stay locked until the population dropped to a level the servers could support. That fact has also been brought up repeatedly in each of these threads yet somehow you and others asking for servers to be unlocked seem to miss why it was locked in the first place and just demand it be unlocked. If the first hundred times its been stated hasn't made it clear to you, why would an additional post?

    Its this simple, there are too many people on the locked servers and they wont open until more people leave. If you want it to open, tell people to move off the server.
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  2. #172
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Starting Cities in a 5 year old MMO... empty.
    Guess what.

    This game gears people to log in, Queue, Queue, Queue, Queue, Queue. Log off.
    There was many people that where like.. oo well there will be no reason to leave town with the duty finder.

    Guess what. People are doing stuff with there time logged in and sitting around in town isn't one of them. To me it means SE has balanced the queues nicely
    Only people staying logged on for hours on end in towns.. Are People AFK, RPer, and people waiting for parties.
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    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  3. #173
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    Airget Lamh
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    Well, what if SE put in an AFK logout Timer for servers like Balmung and Gilgamesh?

    Now it is plausible that the issue with these servers are online inactive players taking up server space but still being designated as an online entity.

    With a logout timer on these specific servers SE could potentially get a better gauge on the actual players online and potentially open up those servers again.

    Or SE could attempt to extract the AFK data within those servers and see how many players AFK for 1hr, 2hrs, 3hrs etc. and if they see the numbers are like 500 players are afk for 8hrs, then they'll know that closing the servers might be unjustified during certain hours.
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  4. #174
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    Vrankyl's Avatar
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    What would be the point? When the servers were locked the devs said why they were locked and that they's stay locked until the population dropped to a level the servers could support. That fact has also been brought up repeatedly in each of these threads yet somehow you and others asking for servers to be unlocked seem to miss why it was locked in the first place and just demand it be unlocked. If the first hundred times its been stated hasn't made it clear to you, why would an additional post?

    Its this simple, there are too many people on the locked servers and they wont open until more people leave. If you want it to open, tell people to move off the server.
    I just wanted to point out something in regard to this. SE waited until Balmung was pushing 4-5 times the size of all the other servers and nearly 1.5 times of the next largest server Gilgamesh before acting. They waited until there was the possibility of catastrophic malfunction with a launch ((which one can argue that even without the DDoS attacks would have been hell for those servers)) to take action. In other words SE has shown us when it comes to server populations they can't actually be trusted or bothered to pay attention to the values, otherwise this lock would have been placed on these servers long before then. So we have been given absolutely no reason to trust or believe that SE is paying attention to remove these locks, in fact if anything they have given us reason to believe that they won't actually act until it's a huge issue until in the opposite direction. Why should we believe that they'll act before server populations fall below 5k, 2k, or even 1k? Communication between them and us is a way to instill that trust, to let us know they are watching it and not just brushing it under the table like they've done to housing for so long until it threatened to be a massive PR mess.
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  5. #175
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    Kytelian Synzai
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    So let me get this straight, people want to reopen Balmung and Gilgamesh so that the smaller servers can die again?
    Please direct me to where anybody stated anything of this sort. That's a slippery slope argument and simply not true. I am happy that smaller servers are flourishing. Balmung doesn't need the lock to be lifted yet from what I've seen/heard. I am on Gilga. I'm very well established on here and have no intention of leaving. That said, I am a more social/casual player and that is the type of player my (smaller) fc is mainly comprised of. Without fresh players, it becomes more difficult to maintain activity as people grow weary of and need a break from FFXIV. I'm not going to force people to stay, but nor do I have to leave either. I have my own methods of weathering the increasing stagnation, however that doesn't mean that I have to keep quiet and blindly accept that this growing "blah" hasn't gone on for long enough.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytelian View Post
    Please direct me to where anybody stated anything of this sort. That's a slippery slope argument and simply not true. I am happy that smaller servers are flourishing. Balmung doesn't need the lock to be lifted yet from what I've seen/heard. I am on Gilga. I'm very well established on here and have no intention of leaving. That said, I am a more social/casual player and that is the type of player my (smaller) fc is mainly comprised of. Without fresh players, it becomes more difficult to maintain activity as people grow weary of and need a break from FFXIV. I'm not going to force people to stay, but nor do I have to leave either. I have my own methods of weathering the increasing stagnation, however that doesn't mean that I have to keep quiet and blindly accept that this growing "blah" hasn't gone on for long enough.
    You know, this sounds like exactly like what happened to other servers while Balmung and Gilgamesh were open for the past years. Let the other servers build bigger communities. From Faerie, this has been nothing but beneficial. You're just upset because you're on the other end of that effect now for a change. Funny part is, I'm sure Balmung and Gilgamesh are probably still 1st and 2nd in population for our DC even with the locks in place.
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You know, this sounds like exactly like what happened to other servers while Balmung and Gilgamesh were open for the past years. Let the other servers build bigger communities. From Faerie, this has been nothing but beneficial. You're just upset because you're on the other end of that effect now for a change. Funny part is, I'm sure Balmung and Gilgamesh are probably still 1st and 2nd in population for our DC even with the locks in place.
    While we don't have any actual hard numbers from SE or acknowledgement from them, many of the third party censuses actually place Leviathan as the 2nd largest NA server now, with at least one other server threatening to surpass Gilgamesh. Again it's not official, but there is still reason enough to doubt that Gilgamesh retains the second spot, so gives reason to further believe that either the lock needs to be remove or more servers are in need of locking. Unfortunately SE's ability to communicate about this seems to be nonexistent. Hells Omega is still listed as 'temporarily' locked to transfers for being the same size as all the other EU worlds and has been that way for a bit, makes you wonder if SE is even looking.
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  8. #178
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    So we have been given absolutely no reason to trust or believe that SE is paying attention to remove these locks, in fact if anything they have given us reason to believe that they won't actually act until it's a huge issue until in the opposite direction. Why should we believe that they'll act before server populations fall below 5k, 2k, or even 1k?
    We have been given communication and reason to trust them on this. The statuses of worlds have already been changed twice, and that includes both locking and unlocking them.

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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    While we don't have any actual hard numbers from SE or acknowledgement from them, many of the third party censuses actually place Leviathan as the 2nd largest NA server now, with at least one other server threatening to surpass Gilgamesh. Again it's not official, but there is still reason enough to doubt that Gilgamesh retains the second spot, so gives reason to further believe that either the lock needs to be remove or more servers are in need of locking. Unfortunately SE's ability to communicate about this seems to be nonexistent. Hells Omega is still listed as 'temporarily' locked to transfers for being the same size as all the other EU worlds and has been that way for a bit, makes you wonder if SE is even looking.
    Leviathan is on Primal not Aether and I did mention from our DC. I'm sure Primal dealt with the same issues though. People will always flock to larger, more populated servers.
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  10. #180
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    Kytelian Synzai
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're just upset because you're on the other end of that effect now for a change. Funny part is, I'm sure Balmung and Gilgamesh are probably still 1st and 2nd in population for our DC even with the locks in place.
    Did you not read what I said about being happy that the small servers are flourishing? Of course I'm upset seeing my community diminish, I don't know anyone who wouldn't be. You kind of have a poor attitude, friend. Gilgamesh is anywhere from third to sixth in terms of NA population. My main problem is that SE is highly inconsistent when it relates to perma locking servers. Leviathan at the very least should be locked and I may argue that Cactuar should be as well. If the goal is to balance out the population and direct more people toward the smaller servers, then that is the appropriate course of action even if Gilga remains locked. You also never pointed out where people want Balmung and Gilga unlocked so small servers can die again.
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