A humble request to Square Enix: please unlock Gilgamesh.

[Korbash]

Yes, Gilgamesh is dying, and it's real life people we want to play with, real life siblings, real life parents, real life children, real life friends, real life collegues, people who want to play the game with us, and that we want to play with them as well, but cannot, because of the lock, and since we all want to be on the same server, that means that possible future clients of SE and possible future players of FF XIV don't occur because of the lock. SE loses money because those people cannot start and play on Gilgamesh therefore they don't play at all.

[Theodric]

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I can sympathise with the idea of wanting to play with people you know intimately. At the end of the day, though, there isn't an infinite amount of space and allowing everybody to flock to a specific server just because it's supposedly 'the place to be' is far from a wise decision. If you really want to play with them that badly then why not entertain them with an alt on a different server? Why do you think that they and/or yourself deserve preferential treatment?

Let's be honest here - you're not looking at the big picture, you're arguing from the perspective of someone who has been inconvenienced and thinks that exceptions should be made because you really want to play with a bunch of people that you like.

A line needed to be drawn somewhere. Square Enix created one that is fair to everybody. Various cross server features have been implemented and others will be added over time. You can also add your friends who cannot reach Gilgamesh on Discord and chat to them there if you have not done so already.

[Krotoan]

Are we really going to sit here and pretend that posts denying this and/or basically saying "no" aren't riddled with bias? Are we really?

The argument of bias need not apply here, you can see very clearly in some replies that people flat out have it out against Gilgamesh and Balmung. People who spite the server for generally no reason except virtue-signaling. "Oh I didn't go on Gil/Bal because I'm better than everyone who flocked there like sheep!" How individualistic of these people.

... it just sounds like you're repeating yourself if only just to tell Gilgamesh/Balmung players who care about this to shut up. How that isn't supposed to reek of bias is beyond me. It feels like I'm reading the same posts you made before regarding this subject all over again.

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We aren't telling you to shutup. We don't think we're better than you or special because we didn't flock to the designated servers for whatever (I don't even remember my starting server I think , I moved to Sarg because my friends did during the OLD server additions, that's all. ). Most of us are trying to explain why the lock remains and how it likely isn't ending any time soon. There isn't some evil server overlord laughing with a locked dome over the "open" button, there are numbers and stats that are measured and still surpassing thresholds.

Like bad tasting medicine it will continue to be around till the malady is gone.

I do hope that maybe, magically the SE network heads look at your post and say "hey! we haven't checked the average server pop in gil for a while.. OH CRAP! IT'S TOTALLY FALLING! OPEN THAT UP NOW!".. but the likelyhood of the server being closed due to oversight is minimal. I'm pretty sure if they saw an opportunity to cram more users into existing equipment for more money they'd go for it. They have everything to gain by making it available to new users but lots to lose by making existing users game experience buggy and unstable.

[Oscura]

We aren't telling you to shutup. We don't think we're better than you or special because we didn't flock to the designated servers for whatever (I don't even remember my starting server I think , I moved to Sarg because my friends did during the OLD server additions, that's all. ). Most of us are trying to explain why the lock remains and how it likely isn't ending any time soon. There isn't some evil server overlord laughing with a locked dome over the "open" button, there are numbers and stats that are measured and still surpassing thresholds.

"We," I was specifically addressing Theodric that time, since every time he posts he seems to be running in circles with the same answer.

Also "we don't think we're better than you or special," you can literally see posts where people very condescending say "maybe next time you shouldn't transfer to big servers" or "maybe you shouldn't have told everyone to go there" or "maybe next time don't help bloat the server," the list goes on and on and on. The constant "this is totally your fault" rhetoric, with some people even adding onto how they totally were above it and play on a small server for it. Even to people who they have no proof were involved or could have or maybe have been on Gilgamesh/Balmung since launch. You don't have to look hard to see people saying they hope the servers die. So maybe you didn't say or mean any of that, but don't pretend it doesn't exist.

People are aware why the server locks exist, it's not going to stop them from complaining. People know why housing is super limited, and also why it is such a huge pain in the rear, but people still complain about that. I really dislike how this community decides what is OK and not OK to complain about, especially when it's based on "what Square Enix said." This double-standard is getting a bit ridiculous. You can only complain about something as long as it doesn't go against the grain? Hmm. I never even implied nor said that there is an "evil server overlord," so I have no idea why you are even bringing up that irrelevant nonsense.

[OliverB]

I have no concrete idea

While the lost players and broken friendships suck, that's how that works

My point is that you don't know anything about this game or gilgamesh and you proved me right by trying to get all technical. You don't build an infrastructure around probabilities. If one online player needs X amount of ressources at most you multiply that number until you have just enough headroom for the whole thing to not crumble down. I've already gone over how the server has not required the help from the queue system over an extended period of time, aside from the shirogane housing district, in a very long time now. So that throws your active accounts theory out the window.

Finally, what is going to happen is people will (have) unsubscribe and the company loses money. That's simply not how it works. You would know if you could understand basic economics but I guess you never touched the market board

[OliverB]

Given the Devs' apparent intent to push cross server stuff out over time. This sort of hunkered down, isolationist mega-server mentality probably isn't something they want reinstating itself any time soon.

And I doubt it will happen again. There's nothing special to come back to anymore.

[Krotoan]

People are aware why the server locks exist, it's not going to stop them from complaining. People know why housing is super limited, and also why it is such a huge pain in the rear, but people still complain about that. I really dislike how this community decides what is OK and not OK to complain about, especially when it's based on "what Square Enix said." This double-standard is getting a bit ridiculous. You can only complain about something as long as it doesn't go against the grain? Hmm. I never even implied nor said that there is an "evil server overlord," so I have no idea why you are even bringing up that irrelevant nonsense.

OK.. got it, there are assholes in this thread using it to lord it over you.. granted. I don't speak for those people.. or really I guess anyone but myself.

I posted the overlord comment because I see people posting as if the decision to withhold creation access is just due to spite.
complain about what you'd like. I never said you couldn't. I'm trying to maybe put some perspective in the discussion.
Housing actually has similar limitations (hardware and resources) but is a game wide problem so that's why it gets such attention. We're all suffering from that. Gil and Bal being locked? Most people just "not my problem" out of those discussions.

My point is..

Ahh, so you are nothing but hostile. Gotcha.
I understand economics, I also administrate a statewide network for an ISP so i know how you plan capacity and manage userbase as well as troubleshooting network problems AND re-allocating resources to alleviate temporary outages. I am well versed in technology and current applications of said technology. Your plan lacks accounting for surges and wanes in userbase. X is measured in HD space? Networking traffic possible? You're going to buy and maintain a network with hardware capable of supporting every user having a completely full inventory and constantly zoning back and forth while spamming as many commands and inputs as possible? That's extreme overkill and no network is provisioned for that. Network engineering would laugh at that budget and purchase order. You're being unnecessarily nasty and close minded.

Yes People will unsubscribe. The company will lose those dollars. Others will then join when the server opens and the company will then acquire more money. This game is very popular and just because you and the people on your server may leave doesn't mean nobody will ever replace you as a sub.

I'm not the one you have to convince, I'm giving you reasons it's still closed. But go ahead and keep telling me I don't know anything and your decidedly full server is dying. ...winky face.

[Hasrat]

I've most likely AFK'd in this game longer than you've played. I have 3 active service accounts and unless my internet or the servers are down, I have a character in Limsa Lominsa at all time.

Isn't it possible you (and similar players, if any) are part of the problem? Clogging up the world and inflating those active player numbers, preventing SE from declaring population lower/stable.

I mean, I don't know how they measure the active population or whatever; not sure if anyone is certain. But considering previous measures to kick AFKers, seems like a possibility that they don't really want players squatting like that at all times.

Just a theory.

[RokkuEkkusu]

My character on Gilgamesh is Ekkusu Volnutt for those who have seen me on that server.

With that out of the way, SE probably won't unlock Gilgamesh soon if people are unwilling to leave (judging by the posts seen here.) But I will say that Gilgamesh probably has a better chance of being out of the congested list than Balmung will, so there is a little glimmer of hope.

If people are not willing to budge on either end, there are quality of life related stuff in and out of the game to socialize with others from different servers such as the following:

- Cross-Server party finder (godsend since 3.5 IMO)
- Cross-Server Friend Lists (long time coming)
- Cross-Server Linkshells
- Discord
- Teamspeak
- Mumble
- Lodestone blogs
- Those discord chats that apply to the entire data center

I mean, servers such as Leviathan, Excalibur, Hyperion, Sargatanas, and Behemoth have decent populations, raiding, and social scenes, but not on the level of Balmung or Gilgamesh. I wonder why?

[Xerek]

I mean, servers such as Leviathan, Excalibur, Hyperion, Sargatanas, and Behemoth have decent populations, raiding, and social scenes, but not on the level of Balmung or Gilgamesh. I wonder why?

As I noted earlier in the thread, Balmung has been the unofficial RP server since launch, and when ARR launched, the RP community chose Gilgamesh as a secondary unofficial RP server. Compounding that, at the same time, the raiding community chose Gilgamesh as their home. That's why those two servers filled much faster then any other.