Can we get entry ilvl for levelling dungeons already?

[TheAngelneer]

This is a discussion forum. Not a written exam.

Guess what is important on a discussion?

Clearly conveying one's point through proper wording.

And if it really was a case of it just editing the posts to "is their job to always have hate on all mobs when necessary/possible." as Oscura suggested, then this wouldn't have been a discussion in this first place, since people would be effectively agreeing with the post that started it ("You just can't be stuck on this whole idea that the tank's job is always to pick up aggro on every mob").

Both statements are equivalent, if people are clearly in opposition to one they can't be advocating for the other.

Quick, everyone go through that person's posts and make sure there are no grammatical, logical, or contextual errors in any of them.

By all means, be my guest. If there are errors resulting in logical inconsistencies I'll welcome the feedback.

[Oscura]

And if it really was a case of it just editing the posts to "is their job to always have hate on all mobs when necessary/possible." as Oscura suggested, then this wouldn't have been a discussion in this first place, since people would be effectively agreeing with the post that started it ("You just can't be stuck on this whole idea that the tank's job is always to pick up aggro on every mob").

Both statements are equivalent, if people are clearly in opposition to one they can't be advocating for the other.

Except this is wrong. As I posted before, and will post again. You keep ignoring the context of the original post that people replied to. The poster very specifically mentioned instances where a tank would either not tank mobs or simply not even exist. It even mentions that DPS do not exist solely to optimize DPS. It implies that, ultimately, a tank can let any mob run wild, since certain classes, like ranged ones, can bounce aggro or kite, as they do "not exist only to optimize dps." Even in the context of something like Shisui, as was argued before, you don't even kite or "bounce" that mob. You are simply inferring that the original poster was also referring to specific situations where bosses, adds or mobs don't have aggro tables, can't be targeted, or will do off-target attacks, which is not the case at all. It is not present in the post period. You cannot infer things based on your own convenience.

Sure, if you decide to take the original post out of context, the two phrases are agreeing. However, as you've said, "clearly conveying one's point through proper wording," which requires context. In the context of the post, it changes the entire meaning of their sentence saying that tanks don't have to tank every mob, as they were just speaking about mobs running wild. Mobs that can, and should be tanked. Their poor wording is not the fault of anyone else, so maybe you should criticize them?