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  1. #12831
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Alliance roulette as RDM. Dun Scaith.

    We didn't really have any trouble until we hit Diabolos Hollow, at which point everything promptly went to hell in a handbasket. Mostly due to:

    - The idiot tank in my alliance popping orbs that didn't need to be hit, and killing people.
    - For some reason, we consistently managed to get 1 door down, while letting the other one spawn a dog.

    But it was hilarious when, just before we wiped, the AST in my alliance told me to ress people, which, HAHA, not gonna happen, pal.
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  2. #12832
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    - The idiot tank in my alliance popping orbs that didn't need to be hit, and killing people.
    Too many people pop those without second thought. I've seen DPS run for them...while near everyone else. You can dodge them 99% of the time(won't say 100% because sometimes they spawn under someone who is standing on edge).
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  3. #12833
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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Evermillion Mariposa
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    Ultros
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I like to think I'm an understanding person, but sometimes I simply cannot comprehend how certain things happen. Like...how do you get to 70 and have no idea what the stack marker is? Just did Shinryu NM and everyone kept running away whenever someone got the stack marker over their head including the person with said marker. I can understand the fire chain thing since that only shows up in the Vault. Diamond Dust only shows up in Shiva. Stuff like that I can understand. But the stack marker? The thing you see you almost every SB instance and quite a few HW ones? I don't feel like I'm being elitist when I say that you should know what that is by now. Or maybe i am, I dunno. I just feel like the game does a fairly good job of conditioning you to deal with certain things.

    I just assumed that was one of them.
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  4. #12834
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post

    I just assumed that was one of them.
    Jumping potions! When these things happen, I usually check how many jobs they have, that's usually a good indicator if they used a jumping potion or not. If they didn't, then I feel hopeless and I pk myself. If they do, I give them some instructions on how to deal with these mechancis.
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  5. #12835
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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    The last 4-5 Bismarck NM groups I've been in have wiped at least once to snakes. Normal mode. Not Extreme. The story version where the mechanics are literally hit things until they die and don't fall off, and tank the snakes.

    Most tanks just don't grab the snakes until the second, third, or even fourth attempt. Some tanks fall off the platform repeatedly and the entire run is void each and every time they do, for every single player.

    And every single other player can do nothing about it. You can't just raise them. You can't just take extra time. You can't just have someone else do it.

    This is why people quit certain trials immediately.
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    Last edited by FunkYeahDragons; 11-14-2017 at 10:30 AM.

  6. #12836
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkYeahDragons View Post
    The last 4-5 Bismarck NM groups I've been in have wiped at least once to snakes. Normal mode. Not Extreme. The story version where the mechanics are literally hit things until they die and don't fall off, and tank the snakes.

    Most tanks just don't grab the snakes until the second, third, or even fourth attempt. Some tanks fall off the platform repeatedly and the entire run is void each and every time they do, for every single player.
    This annoys me too that it still happens. Worse is when I am tanking, doing my job by keeping one snake to one side, and the other tank tries to join the two snakes or grab mine (lol nope), and then one or two DPS get all snarky at both tanks fighting for aggro, instead of actually DPSing. Then, on the second try, the other tank held their one snake away from mine, and the snarky DPS kept their mouths shut.
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  7. #12837
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    Stack mechanic
    Its simple. From the moment you start the game till you reach Shinryu, you encounter a stack mechanic only once per dgn that has it, no ever tells you what it does and you simply assume running away is the right thing since you and your group never wipe to it.

    I had that in one of Sohm Al hard a couple months back. One of the players just never had anyone explain what that meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  8. #12838
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    Kakiko's Avatar
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    Halo Kitty
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    Midgardsormr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    And did The Vault again with an FC member to help them.
    And was so horrible at it I had to beg them to vote kick me out before they ran out of time.
    They got a new healer in and less than 5 minutes later, they had cleared the final boss that kept killing us.

    *sigh*

    So, to the random Olivia that joined us initially: I am so sorry for making you go through all of that. It was a mess.
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  9. #12839
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Its simple. From the moment you start the game till you reach Shinryu, you encounter a stack mechanic only once per dgn that has it, no ever tells you what it does and you simply assume running away is the right thing since you and your group never wipe to it.

    I had that in one of Sohm Al hard a couple months back. One of the players just never had anyone explain what that meant.
    *Honestly cannot remember a stack mechanic in all of Sohm Al hm*

    Are you sure it was that one?
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  10. #12840
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    *Honestly cannot remember a stack mechanic in all of Sohm Al hm*

    Are you sure it was that one?
    Yeah, the one with the bird. In the HW dgns, not the SB bird


    EDIT: Its Xelphatol. My bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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