5.0 Beastmaster: keep it fierce please

[Satyagrahi]

I think it's true that remote-control of a pet tank is too complex for party use. It would be impossible to position correctly or respond quickly enough to mechanics.

For this reason, I am a fan of the approach where the BST is channeling an animal spirit and tanking directly, possibly while riding a beast or having one that will provide buffs. For example, once a beast gauge fills, a pet could be called to provide a short 20% buff, like WAR's Inner Beast. The channeling of a spirit guide animal would lend this class well to a very primal feel, like someone from a tribe that lives off the land. I picture this with dual-wield tomahawks. A whip is obviously another good choice, but personal preference is for dual axes. Dancer, or dare I say Blue Mage could have whip.

Definitely take the transformation or channeling approach to this job, more than remote-control tanking like a Titan Egi.

[Tzain]

If we do get a tank in 5.0. I really hope its Magical based really tired of all these Physical based comps buffing each other. Really would like to see some more Magical based comps.

This 100%. given the number of Aetherial Shields running around it seems like low hanging fruit to build a mitigation tank around using them as a weapon.

But this is about Beastmasters. And I wonder if having the Beast (or Beasts) actually BE the weapon might not work out?

[Savagelf]

I said before I believe beastmaster should be dps and puppetmaster should be tank. i also think it would cool to use Haulbreaker island as base for beastmaster plus beast master should use a Whip. puppetmaster is easy to deal with because people don't get that attach to they pet where beastmaster people doing. plus puppetmaster could be a mitigation tank with they mammet. beastmaster could an awesome tame system for it

haulbreaker island could be where the stable master is for beastmaster pets too. I like see a system simalar to warcraft hunter the different between beastmaster and hunter of wow is beastmaster doesn't have nasty talent tree make hard for It to balance it just need balance with it traits and such. beastmaster as dps would medium range to melee range combats hybrid pet job. i do believe the AI system has improve with the arrived of the squardon

why does beastmaster have be tank couldn't it be dps

[Satyagrahi]

Could be DPS for sure. But there are a few melee DPS now, and not a lot of tank classes. I just think BST would be a fun tank. Puppetmaster could be too, but I would not be a fan if it has a bit of a zany or silly feeling to it. I hope the machinations would feel....solid or menacing, rather than a little peppy toy.

[Satyagrahi]

The main reason I prefer axes to a whip for BST, is I don't want to see the class promote animal cruelty. A whip is a bad idea imo. A BST works WITH the pet as a trusted ally, and does not abuse the pet into submission via cruelty.

[MagiusNecros]

I hope if they add Beastmaster and they butcher it they just let players transform into Werewolves. I'd be on board with that.

After seeing how they handle pets with the Arcanist line I'm not too keen on a Pet Class Tank role.

Who wouldn't want to transform into a Feral beast and tear someone's face off?

[Nyxn607]

I hope if they add Beastmaster and they butcher it they just let players transform into Werewolves. I'd be on board with that.

After seeing how they handle pets with the Arcanist line I'm not too keen on a Pet Class Tank role.

Who wouldn't want to transform into a Feral beast and tear someone's face off?

I like this idea .... I would totally endorse this.

[Savagelf]

I hope if they add Beastmaster and they butcher it they just let players transform into Werewolves. I'd be on board with that.

After seeing how they handle pets with the Arcanist line I'm not too keen on a Pet Class Tank role.

Who wouldn't want to transform into a Feral beast and tear someone's face off?

total don't agree with you here, it be not a pet job if you could only change into a werewolf, beastmaster is pet jobs. I think SE can do better with beast master i understand Satyagrahi i with you on them not endorse animal cruelty. that one reason i for whip because one show that beast master is like trainer in are world but in way it more cruel to have beastmaster be migration tank because your throw everything on to your pets that you have one reason I for dps beastmaster and tank puppetmaster I know I one people get attach to my pet and i think other people are to.
SE has alot rescoure at they despose they talk to they ffxi team or talk they ffx team and figure a way make it work. this also true with summoner they talk to those who use summoner and see how best they improve it the whole demi behumat was step in right direction aleast for summoner. beastmaster should permit pet taming job and fight at side of beastmaster pet job. they could set up trait that the pets get a select amount hp and other stuff for their beastmaster. whip was the original weapon of early beastmaster. One can give beastmaster a whip yet use for combat against one enemies and not against the pets

only game that use migration tank as beast master is rift.

[Marxam]

Well if they want to keep it as simple as possible they could follow these design steps:

1. The Beast only auto attacks or attacks in unison with you when performing special abilities or weapon skills, and only on your currently selected target.
2. The Beast "HP" is actually your "MP" but takes damage at a fraction of what you take 1/10.
3. The Beast has an innate 10% dmg reduction and it's "HP" can be healed via refresh skills, either by party or self use.
4. The tank stance affect what buffs the Beast gets:

Beast Loyalty - Partner up with your beast. Dmg reduced and taken reduced by 20% and healing increased by 20%. Beast auto attack disabled.
Tame - Attack with your beast. Beast auto attack potency 75.

[Shurrikhan]

2. The Beast "HP" is actually your "MP".

This would make a lot of sense if it was some manner of spirit beast, which would then also excuse its shapeshifting or being able to combine with its master under certain abilities or conditions.