Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Meanken]

I have now adopted this policy. If I was the healer in this PUG knowing that the tank is new, I definitely would have said something. I guess because I'm so inexperienced as a tank, and was very close to leveling to 52, I just took it. I do have a lot to learn still. Including to not deal with crap like this. Thanks for the response!

No problem! Don't let yourself get completly turned off of a job or role just because of a poor experience. If you're worried about it happening againm I'd advise finding a friendly FC with active members that'll help you learn the content/role. There's plenty of them out there if you're not already part of one.

[Gemina]

No problem! Don't let yourself get completly turned off of a job or role just because of a poor experience. If you're worried about it happening againm I'd advise finding a friendly FC with active members that'll help you learn the content/role. There's plenty of them out there if you're not already part of one.

I have a very helpful FC. They came along for most of the ride from 30-50 as I wanted to tank every single one of the pre-50 dungeons. One is a DRK main who gave me a lot of helpful tips along the way. But I eventually had to solo queue, you know? The randomness of DF helps to keep our edges sharp!

[Meanken]

I have a very helpful FC. They came along for most of the ride from 30-50 as I wanted to tank every single one of the pre-50 dungeons. One is a DRK main who gave me a lot of helpful tips along the way. But I eventually had to solo queue, you know? The randomness of DF helps to keep our edges sharp!

Fair enough, trial by fire and all of that.

[KaivaC]

I'm glad you are planning on keeping up with dark (my tank main), if I was still playing on Siren (now on Faerie), I would have loved to have to you tank for me so I can finally level some dps, lol. But yeah, don't let some random loser dictate or sour your enjoyment of a game. And honestly, those same people wonder why their queues are so long. Also, one of my best experiences leveling my drk was when I did 50/60 with a random group and we wiped like 3 times, laughing, and having fun as we had to figure out mechanics while constantly dying to them (content was an old and somewhat obscure dungeon). Don't let a few bad apples ruin the experience for you, and if you do run into those people, don't even waste your time with them and be willing to leave and take the timer penalty since your queues are instant anyways. Much less stressful that way.

By the twelve, I wish I had known you guys around the time I quit tanking. Part of that was that I was not picking up on doing large pulls, and I just got tired of the harassment and quit. On the plus side, I've gotten pretty good with healing...enough that if someone acts like an A-hole, I'm perfectly fine with not healing them. After giving up tanking, I've learned to deal with abuse during my learning days as a healer.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I am so pissed off right now. I told my FCs resident DRK about it, and he believes I was trolled. Not even the healer had my back

I feel really discouraged right now. I took up tanking because I know the community needs more of them right now, and wanted to learn something new in the game that I found interesting.

Don't get me wrong though, I am still going to tank. I am just still so new to it and my armor for this kind of stuff is still hardening. I'm going to go sharpen my sword now.

I am sorry you went through this, Gemina. You, of all people, do not deserve to be trolled. Seems like SOME people are unclear on the concept that sometimes a person is new to an instance.

Wow, so sorry to hear that. I personally hate tanking pugs but I will, just to get my dailies done if no one else in my fc needs it or if I'm playing at a off hour. That being said, although I mainly heal, I play a war or drk and if I run into really bad pugs, I have absolutely no problem leaving and eating the penalty. I have absolutely no patience for a-holes. I was never this impatient or mean before but after running into so many a-holes in this game, I think I've become one myself lol.

I was in a dungeon not too long ago leveling my alt war and the sch didn't cast protect so of course I said verbatim "Hello. Protect please." sch responds "nope" I wanted to cuss him out but decided to just leave (I apologize to the dps if you weren't a part of that sch's group). Or when I'm in a dungeon and a brd (mentor flag no less) decides to pull extra adds in dzmael (the area with the frogs you have to be cautious in) so I let him tank it and I walked off and left the dungeon. I have so many instances of running into complete a-holes in duty finder when playing a tank more so than healing so I totally feel your pain. (To all the tank mains, I totally get your frustration with the community)

I think playing a tank can be fun but this community can ruin it for many people starting out. Then they complain, "Why is there a shortage of tanks?" Are you f**king kidding me?

/end rant

*nods*

Tanking is definitely a position that requires good behavior on the part of the other party members.

[Xerek]

It's a tankless job...alright, bad joke. I mained PLD until SB, then swapped to AST. However, PLD is still my secondary class and I've seen my share of abuse with it. My advice is not to give up, and to just be honest. Mention you're learning, take smaller pulls, ask the healer what they can handle. It may seem little, but it really changes perspective. A tank that runs off and struggles with big pulls may draw an eye roll, thoughts they're over-zealous, don't know their job, etc...with all the applicable groans. That same tank, admitting their learning and not fully geared frequently get seen as just that...oh, they're learning, need to gear up, still getting a feel for things...and often seen in a far more charitible light then one who says nothing and performs identically.

[Meanken]

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This is completely unrelated to anything you wrote but as a Boy Scout, I fully approve of that signature of yours, love it.

[Gemina]

I am sorry you went through this, Gemina. You, of all people, do not deserve to be trolled. Seems like SOME people are unclear on the concept that sometimes a person is new to an instance.

Thank you Kacho I can always rely on you to help put back some of the encouragement that was lost from a bad experience. I would have no worries ever if you were my healer! Thanks to everyone. You guys have been so supportive!

It's a tankless job...alright, bad joke. I mained PLD until SB, then swapped to AST. However, PLD is still my secondary class and I've seen my share of abuse with it. My advice is not to give up, and to just be honest. Mention you're learning, take smaller pulls, ask the healer what they can handle. It may seem little, but it really changes perspective. A tank that runs off and struggles with big pulls may draw an eye roll, thoughts they're over-zealous, don't know their job, etc...with all the applicable groans. That same tank, admitting their learning and not fully geared frequently get seen as just that...oh, they're learning, need to gear up, still getting a feel for things...and often seen in a far more charitible light then one who says nothing and performs identically.

I'm definitely not giving up. That means the trolls win, and that is something I just cannot allow. I can do a better job with dealing with them though. I just need more experience tanking.

I'm the type of player who won't even touch an instance until properly equipped and comfortable. I always make sure my gear is in good condition, and also eat food. I figure it just makes things easier on everyone if I come fully prepared. The problem with 50/60 roulette, is I have no idea what guide to look up before queuing up for it. Just because I've run these dungeons as a healer doesn't even remotely mean that I know what I'm doing when running it a first time as a tank. There are different mechanics to handle with some bosses.

When it comes to pulls, and I bet any healer/tank or tank/healer can attest to this: is that gauging what the group is capable of pulling transitions well from one role to the other. I'm not a one-pack at a time kind of tank, but I also haven't put any of my groups in a dangerous situation by over-pulling, save one pull I did in Dzamael Darkhold. I would never pull wall to wall in a dungeon I have never tanked. That's suicide!

Anywho, I like to think that I have a good grip on tanking, but need more time, experience, and definitely cooperation from my party members to get better.

[tinythinker]

Yaaay. When I started playing a while back I started with WHM then moved to SCH, but I haven't done anything on SCH is verrrrry long time except to level to 70. Last night I figured I would take SCH for a spin in a 50/60 roulette to get a sense of what it was like before. But, I just seemed to be slow/stupid. I have zero trouble with big pulls on 50/60 runs with WHM (which I really shouldn't) so I figured SCH would be good.

Tried again on SCH tonight. No problem for 50/60 as Lost City hard finally popped up (have loved the music a long time but it never came up in queue so it was good to complete it). Decided to try SCH for leveling roulette as well, got Castrum Abania, no problems at all. Well except for lag spikes and a disconnect. But no problem with my healing. It may seem trivial, but when RL has been tiring and you've had a bad streak of poor results as a healer in a source of entertainment for weeks, having two good runs in one night feels nice.

Thanks to the six great players I was teamed with. Tanks weren't squishy. DPS mowed things down so fast I had trouble getting Bane on my DoTS. No one was cross even with the lag and worse. Very nice.

[ Plus I figured at least three sacks of other people's crap were gonna hit a fan near me at work, but when I arrived someone at the office had some music on near me but on low and the channel started playing a song from Skryim (yeah a different franchise but meh, the part that stuck out starts at :54) and the three problems I was anticipating turned out to not be problems or have simple resolutions/less burdensome outcomes. Did get stuck two hours over but whatever. So the good runs were a nice bonus ]

UPDATE: Tried SCH for dungeon roulettes next day, got Snowcloak for 50/60 and Castrum Abania again for Leveling. And again two good runs. Yeah, Castrum isn't like (*scowls*) Ala Migho or (*spit*) Bardam's Meddle for huge healer check trash pulls, but I will take two good days of runs in a row on a healing job I've only used in 2017 so far when getting to 70 (outside of any dungeons). Will of course go back to WHM but the break so far has been nice except for the first night when I went with SCH again and it was kind of ugly because of the rust.

[Rosentretter]

It depresses me how people still gets "judged" by the last boss in Rabanastre because they still can't understand when to obbey and when to not, or when they can't see there's a mark of their respective alliance and put 2 stack marks together...