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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    See, this little part is extremely irritating to read. Do you know why?! Because it's absolutely wrong, in a lot of cases....

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    Their is a reason why it's call a business and all business know what may and will most likely happen specially online. For example; if it's a recurring charge until canceled and it specifically states that on their agreement just because the consumers have better things to do and refuse to balance their checkbook like responsible people, take the time to cancel properly, and still complain, why should a company pay for it? 2 years, 3 years, and then expect the company to give them a refund just because they didn't log in and use their service? being an online service this things are predictable and have and will most likely continue to happen. IF people can't say OK I read the contract, it's their rules, I ACCEPT TO THE TERMS and want to play is considered a matter a choice. IF the company feels it has effected enough people they may actually offer some type of compensation of their free will just like when their is a natural disaster. I mean it could be worse, at least their not Apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Their is a reason why it's call a business and all business know what may and will most likely happen specially online.
    And?! Law is law. As I said, they can write whatever they want in ToS, and only the parts that are not at odds with the law apply, even if all of them are present there.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    For example; if it's a recurring charge until canceled and it specifically states that on their agreement just because the consumers have better things to do and refuse to balance their checkbook like responsible people, take the time to cancel properly, and still complain, why should a company pay for it?
    And this is related to the topic...how?!

    Heck, I even wrote in my first post that what matters is the player having the possibility of playing, whether or not they actually try to do that. So this is really...yeah.


    I won't continue this any further. I told you about the law. I wrote quite a lot, approaching the matter from multiple parts. I even gave you examples that should have made you think (seriously, you completely brushed off the risk of SLAVERY being perfectly legal if it was how you say it is, aka. the contract trumping over law just cause you read and signed it?!). If you still think it's not like this...it's not my problem. In the first place, I couldn't care less what anyone does with their time or money. I just care about them having fair chance at making an educated decision.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    In the first place, I couldn't care less what anyone does with their time or money. I just care about them having fair chance at making an educated decision.
    Now if only consumers could also make an educated decision and understand that this situation is common with online services specially with games. If people don't like the terms hey by own means they don't have to use the service. Lets face it most people claim to rage quit, and for the most part come back anyways of their own free will. So yeah not accepting something as basic as this is more of being spoiled and wanting everything to go their way. We all pay a subscription, we can all be affected by it at any time. Using the term Slavery over the terms of use? come on hence the key words I AGREE when your using the product. While I do feel bad for people who are struggling I can't feint ignorance and say that they are right.
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