Lets speak about Mentor's.

[BillyKaplan]

I don't want to be a bad example...there are enough of you out there.

You're being pretty horrendously rude and generalizing right there, so. There's that. Not justifying the language Starflake chose to use in the least, but come on.

So a player is not qualified to see if someone plays bad just because he didn't level the classes, very interesting

While some things are glaringly obvious, you'll often hear complaints about performance from people who don't know how other jobs even operate. One of the most prominent if basic examples is blaming RDMs for lack of heals/raising when they're lower than the relevant levels for those skills. So while I concede you can often tell how bad someone is without having played that specific job, or even their role, you'll also very often see people who complain without understanding objective restrictions holding performance back.

[Jijifli]

One of the most prominent if basic examples is blaming RDMs for lack of heals/raising when they're lower than the relevant levels for those skills.

THIS! THIS RIGHT HERE!

I got Sophia in a trials and the amount of harassment towards a RDM for not raising was dumb. I had to personally link the RDM page for them to realize us saying it's a level 64 skill isn't poop and they need to stop.

[Glenfiddich]

...but your entire post was unbelievably hostile...

You're being pretty horrendously rude...

My words im my posts:

I've come to the Point were I'm thinking that Mentors are the most inconsiderate, most arrogant and most incapable Players in that Game. I have no respect for them.

It was a stupid show off. So he could be sure that everyone had to notice his awesome chair. Simple as that.

Now a Mentor:

...then you encounter a lot of shitty and lazy people...

...Self entitled asshats...

See the differnce?

[BillyKaplan]

See the differnce?

You don't have to curse and swear to be rude, using clean language really doesn't constitute moral high ground.

[Glenfiddich]

Ok. You are calling me rude. Well, then I have to live up to that.

In my opinion Mentors do have Mental problems in their Private Lives and the are trying to compensate their failure with that little shiny pixel crown.

[Avatre]

In my opinion Mentors do have Mental problems in their Private Lives and the are trying to compensate their failure with that little shiny pixel crown.

I will say...no. While I do have mentor status, I do not flaunt it as me being superior. I use it as a "I've done this fight before, and if I actually remember it, will help with any questions people have. If I don't remember it, well, we can learn it together as I slowly remember." Heck, I wasn't even trying to get it when I did get it, I had just met the absurdly easy requirements to have received it. And the only time it's showing for me, is when I actually do the Mentor Roulette, which I do sparingly(basically when I feel like helping people)...as much as another mount would be nice, it will come in time.

[BillyKaplan]

Tantrum

If you run into mentors like that you should report them and help improve the system by hopefully having GMs weed them out. Displaying such pettiness, and ableism besides, only shows you're no better than anyone you wish to pass criticism on. And how much bite do you think anything you said in this thread has when you actively set out to attack people?

[Jijifli]

Ok. You are calling me rude. Well, then I have to live up to that.

In my opinion Mentors do have Mental problems in their Private Lives and the are trying to compensate their failure with that little shiny pixel crown.

There are Mentors that do try to help. Sometimes however we reach a point where we're not in the mood to help. I have the crown, I worked hard for it, but I don't wear it often because my advice lands on deaf ears. I don't have infinite patience, and when it's clear someone is refusing to listen to a word I am saying, I'm going to probably come of as, "One of those hostile rude mentors."

Hell, if you want a fun story, I had a sprout try to chew me out and threaten me because I mentioned to them they didn't have to spam cure (I did not say to dps) because if the tank is full, it's a waste of resources and starves them quicker. Hell, here's the quote. "Hey <healer>, there's no need to spam cure on a tank with full health. It's wasting mana and will hurt in prolong'd fights."

If you want to tell me what part provoked the healer to threaten me, I'd love to hear it.

[Xerek]

Ok. You are calling me rude. Well, then I have to live up to that.

Actually, no. You have the choice not to. You quote one specific reply and point to it as a shining example that all mentors are horrible people, ignoring the various, polite replies of a number of other mentors here. But it's clear you've let some bad experiences with mentors scar you badly, and when that view is challenged, you simply lash out with unfounded insults.

[LadyKairi]

Ok. You are calling me rude. Well, then I have to live up to that.

In my opinion Mentors do have Mental problems in their Private Lives and the are trying to compensate their failure with that little shiny pixel crown.

And you have mental problems if you think every mentor is just in it for the crown. You are so far out from reality, its astonishing. The fact you cannot separate reality from your own little world proves it. That statement is insanely rude, and the worst post in this thread so far. It truly speaks volumes about you as a person. Stop lumping us good mentors with those horrible excuses of mentors. Not all of us are horrible.

I became a mentor a long time ago, because i genuinely wanted to help others. I felt I had a good understanding of every fight (ex and normal modes), and I always made sure to know what I was doing so I could help others. Every duty (mentor roulette or not), I always try to be kind to others and defend those who get picked on. At first, I would always try to politely give rotation tips to players like ice mages, but I was always met with hostility and rudeness. After that, I just stuck to teaching mechanics.

I have never been in it for the crown, the so called "status", the mount.. I have done the roulette enough that I did receive my mount, but to this day I still do the roulettes to help. I'm always that mentor that stays in ex primal groups, even though I had many chances at leaving without penalty. I am always that mentor who stays with a group until they want to give up, or the duty timer runs out. I was always that mentor that would leave the duty without penalty and come back on a different/harder to find role to make the run refill faster, even if I didn't get credit for the clear. I have helped many people get various different clears. I always try to be perky and polite, even though I am horribly shy, but I still have my days where my patience runs thin. I have done my best to be a role model, to better myself, to help those in need. I have smiled through and tolerated so much abuse to myself by inconsiderate twats, and I will be damned if you lump me in with those mistakes of mentors. Get a reality check.

You don't even understand the amount of hate that was thrown my way, even for just being nice (seriously had someone yell at me for it). I know for a fact I am not the only person to experience this, so I can understand if a mentor just snaps. I have come close to snapping many a time, but I always try to stay relaxed. I love being a mentor, and I take great pride in being one. It is incredibly insulting to be automatically lumped into the bad mentor category just because I'm a mentor, when I do my hardest to be the opposite. People like you do not breed motivation to be one of the good ones. If we are just going to be lumped in with the crappy mentors no matter what we do, then why should we bother to try to be better? You don't know every single mentor in the world, you have never ran with every single mentor in the world, so stop acting like you know why we do what we do and what we do. Again, get a reality check please, and stop making generalizations about people you don't even know because you had a couple bad experiences. It's not right, and its not fair to those of us who actually try to do good in the game.